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Re: Trump openly inciting violence against Democrats.
Post by gcomeau   » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:26 pm

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Imaginos1892 wrote:Except that the instigators caught on video are known Antifa fucks.


3 held in Las Vegas on terror charges in right-wing conspiracy to spark violence during protests

https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2020/06/ ... 139032001/

Police seize assault rifles, handguns from anti-government member at Denver protests.

McGee identifies with the “Boogaloo” movement, which aims to prepare for a civil and race war.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/crim ... 919eee0b46

(The boogaloos would be the nazi's who deliberately attempt to incite violence at these protests in the hopes a race war will erupt as a result)

Twitter says fake "antifa" account was run by White Supremacists"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-fa ... s-removal/

etc...


You know, for how often right wingers go off on conspiracy rants about false flag operations you're pretty damn slow to pick up on a real one right in front of your face.

I'm not saying that there have not been some incidents of violence from antifa protestors as well, but they are almost always in direct reaction to fascists going active.

(And as for the anarchists... well, it's in their name. They will show up *anywhere* to try to cause anarchy if they see an opportunity. )
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Re: Trump openly inciting violence against Democrats.
Post by n7axw   » Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:16 pm

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gcomeau wrote:
Imaginos1892 wrote:Except that the instigators caught on video are known Antifa fucks.


3 held in Las Vegas on terror charges in right-wing conspiracy to spark violence during protests

https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2020/06/ ... 139032001/

Police seize assault rifles, handguns from anti-government member at Denver protests.

McGee identifies with the “Boogaloo” movement, which aims to prepare for a civil and race war.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/crim ... 919eee0b46

(The boogaloos would be the nazi's who deliberately attempt to incite violence at these protests in the hopes a race war will erupt as a result)

Twitter says fake "antifa" account was run by White Supremacists"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-fa ... s-removal/

etc...


You know, for how often right wingers go off on conspiracy rants about false flag operations you're pretty damn slow to pick up on a real one right in front of your face.

I'm not saying that there have not been some incidents of violence from antifa protestors as well, but they are almost always in direct reaction to fascists going active.

(And as for the anarchists... well, it's in their name. They will show up *anywhere* to try to cause anarchy if they see an opportunity. )


I know that there have been assertions from the White House and the right that Antifa was present at some of the protests. But is there any credible documentation to establish this as fact?

Don

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Re: Trump openly inciting violence against Democrats.
Post by Eyal   » Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:28 am

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n7axw wrote:I know that there have been assertions from the White House and the right that Antifa was present at some of the protests. But is there any credible documentation to establish this as fact?

Don

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FBI finds no evidence of Antifa’s involvement in national unrest
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Re: Trump openly inciting violence against Democrats.
Post by Annachie   » Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:36 am

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Even with Eyal's link, asking if there were Antifa people there is a lot like asking if there were left handed people there.

Bound to be, but as an organising body, nope.
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Re: Trump openly inciting violence against Democrats.
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:34 pm

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Given the fact that many Trump supporters had to run a gauntlet of ANTIFA rioters to get to his rallies, I think that this entire thread is hypocritical.
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Re: Trump openly inciting violence against Democrats.
Post by Joat42   » Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:15 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:Given the fact that many Trump supporters had to run a gauntlet of ANTIFA rioters to get to his rallies, I think that this entire thread is hypocritical.

So your only answer is whataboutism? Pfft..

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Re: Trump openly inciting violence against Democrats.
Post by isaac_newton   » Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:50 am

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n7axw wrote: snip
I know that there have been assertions from the White House and the right that Antifa was present at some of the protests. But is there any credible documentation to establish this as fact?

Don

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well - there was that video of that 75year old antifa - violently attacking that totally peaceful unresisting pavement with his head... :roll:


[edit] ooo my 999th post
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Re: Trump openly inciting violence against Democrats.
Post by gcomeau   » Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:15 am

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And in the meantime, as we remove our tongues from our cheeks...

FBI finds no evidence of Antifa’s involvement in national unrest

https://www.ajc.com/news/fbi-finds-evid ... QEvVsJ7AJ/
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Re: Trump openly inciting violence against Democrats.
Post by n7axw   » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:29 pm

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gcomeau wrote:And in the meantime, as we remove our tongues from our cheeks...

FBI finds no evidence of Antifa’s involvement in national unrest

https://www.ajc.com/news/fbi-finds-evid ... QEvVsJ7AJ/


If one is prone to see in antifa under every bush, I doubt that what the FBI says is going to matter. Witness TFLY's recent post 《shrug》. Arguing ideology with right wingers is not really a productive exercise. That really doesn't bother me. What does bother me is how hard it can be to come together on the facts, the reality of the matter.

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Re: Trump openly inciting violence against Democrats.
Post by gcomeau   » Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:02 pm

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n7axw wrote:
gcomeau wrote:And in the meantime, as we remove our tongues from our cheeks...

FBI finds no evidence of Antifa’s involvement in national unrest

https://www.ajc.com/news/fbi-finds-evid ... QEvVsJ7AJ/


If one is prone to see in antifa under every bush, I doubt that what the FBI says is going to matter. Witness TFLY's recent post 《shrug》


Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to hear this was TFLY's home town...


https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/ ... -armed-lo/
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