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Re: Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:44 pm

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The E wrote:
TFLYTSNBN wrote:Hey fucktards. Most Americans are hybrids. I have native American ancestry from at least two of my four grandparents and probably a third. Even African-Americans have a high percentage of native American ancestry. Ethnic Europeans generally don't have any native American ancestry. You're are FUBARed.


Oh hey, the patented TFLY mathematical acumen is at work again.
And in a repeat of a classic TFLY post, he once again is confused about deep and esoteric questions like "what is a majority".

There's at least one study that estimates that less than 1 percent of african americans, less than 0.2% of european americans and about 20% of hispanic americans have some amount of native american ancestry; If 0.8% of african americans is a "high" percentage, I kinda have to wonder what you would consider a low one.

That's assuming, of course, that there is anything to this bullshit. I would bet that there isn't; as with any infectious disease as broadly infectious as corona, it's the level of care and prevention that matters, not who your ancestors were.


With the exception of the herititary oligarchs, almost everyone in Latin America has a native American mitocondria. Almost by definition, Hispanics are native American.
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Re: Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?
Post by Dilandu   » Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:59 am

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Joat42 wrote:Anyone else find it telling that TFLY went from using the name Corona virus to the China virus?


He is desperate. USA currently have twice as more active cases as China - 14023 versus 6569. Since he could not admit the truth that all American monumental health industry essentially flopped, he is trying to blame someone other.
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Re: Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?
Post by Arol   » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:45 am

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The discussion of North Korea does bring back reminiscence of one of the innumerable Zombie catastrophe films, where the disease is transmitted by a bite from one of the infected. One of protagonists in the film mentioned that the North Koreans solved the problem by extracting the teeth of the entire population. Dramatic license, sure!
But given that North Korea is one of the most; if not the most, totalitarian and secretive regimes on the face of the planet, is it not conceivable that they would resort to the harshest prophylactic methods?
Namely, euthanasia followed by cremation!
This could be one of the answers as to why they can brag about being disease free!
The self-caused past famines, with resultant body count in the millions, is certainly indicative of the indifference by Kim and his family to the well-being of his subjects.
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Re: Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?
Post by The E   » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:49 am

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It is easy to imagine atrocities happening beyond an iron curtain.
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Re: Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?
Post by Dilandu   » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:36 am

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Arol wrote:But given that North Korea is one of the most; if not the most, totalitarian and secretive regimes on the face of the planet, is it not conceivable that they would resort to the harshest prophylactic methods?
Namely, euthanasia followed by cremation!
This could be one of the answers as to why they can brag about being disease free!
The self-caused past famines, with resultant body count in the millions, is certainly indicative of the indifference by Kim and his family to the well-being of his subjects.


Have some article about the situation in North Korea:

https://carnegie.ru/commentary/81320

In short - it is not exactly brilliant, but not bad also. The advantages is, that North Korea have a lot of trained medical personnel (one of the highest percentage among the entire world), and while their training is mostly outdated, they could provide all basic medical care required, including life support.

The other thing is that the medical system, while again, outdated and struggling with the lack of modern equipment, is also total and well-organized. Medical data about the whole population is collected, sorted and updated regularly.

Also, since the whole nation is very strictly controlled, and population is accustomed to order and discipline, it is quite easy to control the medical situation also. Total medical checks are quite common for North Korea villages and towns. Quarantine also easy to establish & maintain.

Essentially, the main potential hazard for North Korea may be the economic consequences of the crisis, since it hampered their import (and they import much of their fuel and food supplies). On strictly medical side, they probably would be just fine.
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Re: Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:09 am

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Dilandu wrote:
Joat42 wrote:Anyone else find it telling that TFLY went from using the name Corona virus to the China virus?


He is desperate. USA currently have twice as more active cases as China - 14023 versus 6569. Since he could not admit the truth that all American monumental health industry essentially flopped, he is trying to blame someone other.



How is the healthcare industry suppossed to limit infections when the US can not exclude diseased peoples from entering the country. Itally's socialized medicine has resulted in an infection rate nearly two orders of magnitude higher.

Just to refresh everyone's memory, here is your first post on this subject:





Oh please! There is no "exponential" growth! Stop being an old lady, who have no better things to do than spread apocalyptic rumors!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... rus-cases/

In fact, the number of infected decreased. It could, of course, still go up - if, for example, pandemic hit India or some other Asian country with high population density and inept government - but China obviously took it under control. The number of peoples cured is 4,4 times greater than the number of dead, and the absolute majority of cases are mild one.


TFLYTSNBN wrote:
It is alarming that North Korea officially reports zero cases.


What exactly so alarming here? They are quite isolationist country with strict border control and very limited traffic. They may just put everyone who are entering the country into quarantine (the number is actually not enormous), and thus prevent the possibility of spread from the very beginning.
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Re: Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?
Post by Dilandu   » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:55 am

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:

Just to refresh everyone's memory, here is your first post on this subject:


And my prediction was generally correct. My major mistake was to overestimate the quality of European healthcare system; I though that exponential growth could happens if virus would hit places like India, not Italy.

To put it simply, mu predictions:

* There would be no exponential growth in China - correct.
* China took pandemic under control - correct.
* The exponential growth may start if virus hit some country with high population density & poor healthcare - correct.
* The most probable such country would be India - INCORRECT.
* The absolute majority of cases are mild one - correct.
* North Korea would be reasonably fine - correct.

I.e. out of six my prediction, five was right.
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Let's shorten it to very end - the length of Fuhrer's grave.

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Re: Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?
Post by gcomeau   » Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:07 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:
Dilandu wrote:
He is desperate. USA currently have twice as more active cases as China - 14023 versus 6569. Since he could not admit the truth that all American monumental health industry essentially flopped, he is trying to blame someone other.



How is the healthcare industry suppossed to limit infections when the US can not exclude diseased peoples from entering the country.


What the hell are you talking about? Nobody has ever even suggested diseased people should be freely running around the planet and how is that a response to what you were replying to?

Itally's socialized medicine has resulted in an infection rate nearly two orders of magnitude higher.


Ummm, no. Italy's high population density, lack of distancing measures taken in time, and high percentage of elderly in their population did that.

And just wait until US testing, which is FAR behind most of the planet, finally catches up.
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Re: Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?
Post by gcomeau   » Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:25 pm

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And FFS, Trump is on TV lying about testing capacity *again*. Would someone keep that moron away from a microphone for the duration?
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Re: Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?
Post by George J. Smith   » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:37 pm

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gcomeau wrote:And FFS, Trump is on TV lying about testing capacity *again*. Would someone keep that moron away from a microphone for the duration?


That is an insult to 7 year olds throughout the world.

The man is a cretin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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