Time to read THE LAST CENTURION?

Dilandu wrote:

TFLYTSNBN wrote:
There is an American parody of Lawrence of Arabia in which it is revealed that Lawrence actually enjoyed his treatment by the Turks so much that he arranged to get himself captured repeatedly.

While real Thomas Lawrence was apparently homosexual and quite probably masochist, he most definitely did NOT like the idea of being Ottoman prisoner.

Maybe that he liked his treatment was tongue in cheek... part of the parody.

Don

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The E wrote:

Imaginos1892 wrote:Heads need to roll for this shit.

100.000 people dead, you complete nutcase.

A quarter of all people, worldwide, who are known to have died due to COVID have died in the US.

This is not the common cold. The 2018-19 influenza season killed "just" 35000 people in the US. A disease that is at least 3 times as deadly and much more infectious is no longer comparable to the common cold or even a regular influenza season (which, let's be clear, also happened this year!).
In conclusion: Imaginos, do us all a favour and learn how to read some goddamn numbers.

107 K as of 16:30 EST on June 2 BUT WHILE THAT IS ONLY THE USA,
IT IS A BADGE OF HONOR TO BE NUMBER ONE???

The antagonist in this thread seems to fall just short of telling us that Trump walks on water and while he laments Lebanon does he have any care for the Kurd's who had been the staunch ally in our foreign policy in the region before president wet feet sold them out?
Or that might have been the other victory his royal son in law worked out before Trump tagged him to straighten out the supply of critical needs (my supermarket still has no toilet paper and how good is the ability to track the virus when I cannot get a test unless I have symptoms)
or maybe tossing the Kurd's under the bus had something to do with the price to turn away when Jamal Khashoggi was murdered but I am confused maybe it had something to do with Saudi Arabia to purchase arms from the United States totaling US$110 billion immediately, and $350 billion over 10 years that got the last Inspector General fired.
<is it blackmail or bribery with the Saudi and Turks?>

The corruption and lies are so thick if we could walk on it our heads would hit the ceiling.

But it is Quack quack Clinton or Blah blah Obama

It sure is a good thing that it is Jared who is in charge instead of some crook like Hunter.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

TFLYTSNBN wrote:Just FYI, the actual Coronavirus death rate in the USA is about average compared to Eurotrash countries.

Other countries doing a bad job at handling the pandemic does not excuse your country doing a bad job, especially given how you're constantly bragging about how superior yours is.

The E wrote:

TFLYTSNBN wrote:Just FYI, the actual Coronavirus death rate in the USA is about average compared to Eurotrash countries.

Other countries doing a bad job at handling the pandemic does not excuse your country doing a bad job, especially given how you're constantly bragging about how superior yours is.

Germany's low death rate from the Chinavirus is entirely the result of good luck and family living arrangements. Most of the Germans who were originally exposed were younger adults vacationing in the Alps. Unlike Italians who tend to live in multiple generation households, young adult Germans tend to live separately from their elderly parents and grandparents. As a result, Chinavirus infections in Germany were primarily confined to younger people who were far more likely to survive.

While the CDC should take the blame for FUBARing production of test kits, it truly is President Trump's fault. While POTUS Trump imposed a travel ban on China, he was to slow to impose a travel ban on Europe. As a result, far too many diseased Eurotrash were allowed into the US to infect Americans.

TFLYTSNBN wrote:Germany's low death rate from the Chinavirus is entirely the result of good luck and family living arrangements. Most of the Germans who were originally exposed were younger adults vacationing in the Alps. Unlike Italians who tend to live in multiple generation households, young adult Germans tend to live separately from their elderly parents and grandparents. As a result, Chinavirus infections in Germany were primarily confined to younger people who were far more likely to survive.

Really, TFLY. Are you sure that those are the only reasons? Because you forgot a few others, namely:
* A comprehensive contact tracing program to identify and isolate outbreaks
* A functional health care system that is essentially free to use
* A functional social security system that allowed people to remain isolated without going bankrupt

The US is has more than 2.5 times the number of active cases per capita, more than 3 times the number of deaths; this is not explainable through demographics alone.

While the CDC should take the blame for FUBARing production of test kits, it truly is President Trump's fault. While POTUS Trump imposed a travel ban on China, he was to slow to impose a travel ban on Europe. As a result, far too many diseased Eurotrash were allowed into the US to infect Americans.

Ah, so you're still playing ignorant about the realities of how COVID spread, because that way you can pretend it was the fault of foreigners or of people not letting Trump do something instead of acknowledging reality.

(Reality being that by the time travel restrictions were discussed, the virus was already spreading in the US pretty much unchecked; the initial testing debacle didn't help, but testing only gets you so far if you do not also trace infections back to their point of origin, something that US authorities did not actually do)

The E wrote:

TFLYTSNBN wrote:Germany's low death rate from the Chinavirus is entirely the result of good luck and family living arrangements. Most of the Germans who were originally exposed were younger adults vacationing in the Alps. Unlike Italians who tend to live in multiple generation households, young adult Germans tend to live separately from their elderly parents and grandparents. As a result, Chinavirus infections in Germany were primarily confined to younger people who were far more likely to survive.

Really, TFLY. Are you sure that those are the only reasons? Because you forgot a few others, namely:
* A comprehensive contact tracing program to identify and isolate outbreaks
* A functional health care system that is essentially free to use
* A functional social security system that allowed people to remain isolated without going bankrupt

The US is has more than 2.5 times the number of active cases per capita, more than 3 times the number of deaths; this is not explainable through demographics alone.

While the CDC should take the blame for FUBARing production of test kits, it truly is President Trump's fault. While POTUS Trump imposed a travel ban on China, he was to slow to impose a travel ban on Europe. As a result, far too many diseased Eurotrash were allowed into the US to infect Americans.

Ah, so you're still playing ignorant about the realities of how COVID spread, because that way you can pretend it was the fault of foreigners or of people not letting Trump do something instead of acknowledging reality.

(Reality being that by the time travel restrictions were discussed, the virus was already spreading in the US pretty much unchecked; the initial testing debacle didn't help, but testing only gets you so far if you do not also trace infections back to their point of origin, something that US authorities did not actually do)

At the time President Trump imposed earlier travel ban on China, the number of suspected cases in the US was very nearly zero. Democrats accused Trump of being racist. Nutty Nancy Pelossi even did her famous walk about through Chinatown.

Contact tracing is primarily the job of State health officials with​the CDC providing support. It is nearly impossible to do effective contact tracing without a reliable test system. CDC had screwed up their test then refused to acknowledge the screw up and advise the President to obtain test kits from other countries. On a local level, at the time that public health officials should have been gearing up to do contact tracing, the corrupt bureaucrats at the Oregon Health Authority who oversee the Oregon Medical Marijunna Program were busy processing applications to tenants and others to commit Federal felonies in rental properties without the knowledge or consent of the landlord. This was in violation of State law as well as Federal law.

TFLYTSNBN wrote:On a local level, at the time that public health officials should have been gearing up to do contact tracing, the corrupt bureaucrats at the Oregon Health Authority who oversee the Oregon Medical Marijunna Program were busy processing applications to tenants and others to commit Federal felonies in rental properties without the knowledge or consent of the landlord. This was in violation of State law as well as Federal law.

Yes, we absolutely were overdue for a rant on your favourite topic.

The E wrote:

TFLYTSNBN wrote:On a local level, at the time that public health officials should have been gearing up to do contact tracing, the corrupt bureaucrats at the Oregon Health Authority who oversee the Oregon Medical Marijunna Program were busy processing applications to tenants and others to commit Federal felonies in rental properties without the knowledge or consent of the landlord. This was in violation of State law as well as Federal law.

Yes, we absolutely were overdue for a rant on your favourite topic.

Explain to me why I should not be pissed off about the State of Oregon entering into a criminal conspiracy with the Oregon Marijunna Mafia to appropriate the private property of innocent landlords then giving a bootlegger a free pass for shooting at my children with a weapon that can inflict injuries such as this one.

https://images.app.goo.gl/VcosEmUdjiKTDm3p8

TFLYTSNBN wrote:

Explain to me why I should not be pissed off about the State of Oregon entering into a criminal conspiracy with the Oregon Marijunna Mafia to appropriate the private property of innocent landlords then giving a bootlegger a free pass for shooting at my children with a weapon that can inflict injuries such as this one.

https://images.app.goo.gl/VcosEmUdjiKTDm3p8

I think I stand with TFLY on this one. I'm not sure that conspiracy is the best way to describe it though. What has happened is that several states have had referendums legalizing pot. The Obama Administration decided to let the states experiment even though the referendums were in conflict with federal law. That was the first mistake. The Fed's job is to enforce the law. If someone wants that law repealed, convince Congress to do that. The Trump Administration being made up of more traditional sorts decided to resume enforcing the law.

That left the state beaurocrats and and the pot growers caught between two conflicting authorities. The error here was to not understand that federal law is preeminent. States can't just do their own thing in violation of federal law.

Also, nobody should grow pot on Flys property without his permission. He could face legal liability himself.

As for shooting at his kids, the authorities should have looked into it and enforced the law. The way this was described it should be a no brainer.

Don

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n7axw wrote:The way this was described it should be a no brainer.

Don

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Key phrase there being "the way this was described" and taking into account who is doing the describing and their history for accuracy in their statements.