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Trump pardoning war criminals...
Post by gcomeau   » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:06 pm

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...and then actively inserting himself into military disciplinary matters to protect said war criminals from any other disciplinary action against the pleading of the Pentagon not to completely undermine their ability to maintain discipline.

Let's hear the excuse making, so called patriots. We're talking about a guy whose ENTIRE OWN PLATOON turned him in and testified against him. Who is definitely 100% guilty. And not only will Trump not allow him to be sentenced, he won't even allow the Navy to put on a symbolic show of disciplining a war criminal by removing his trident. He wants a war criminal (a pardon does not remove the guilty verdict, it only removes the sentence. He REMAINS a war criminal) to retire WITH HONOR from the Navy.
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Re: Trump pardoning war criminals...
Post by smr   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:29 am

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Nice to see that you don't know the whole story. The story is on youtube. Take some time and find out all the facts because if you have have any compassion or humanity in your soul, you will take the NCO's side of the story. Specifically, focus in on the prosecutor's behavior. Also, look at NCIS investigators extracting false statements and threatening members that told the truth.

As far as taking a picture with a dead soldier...it happens all the time. In his case, he took a picture with rest of his platoon in front of a dead soldier. Why did no one else get charged? Food for thought. Remember this, if I tell you the story, you will discount the story because it came from me. If you find out the whole story yourself, you will find out the truth and maybe have a different opinion but at least you will know the whole story rather than looking like an idiot.

gcomeau wrote:...and then actively inserting himself into military disciplinary matters to protect said war criminals from any other disciplinary action against the pleading of the Pentagon not to completely undermine their ability to maintain discipline.

Let's hear the excuse making, so called patriots. We're talking about a guy whose ENTIRE OWN PLATOON turned him in and testified against him. Who is definitely 100% guilty. And not only will Trump not allow him to be sentenced, he won't even allow the Navy to put on a symbolic show of disciplining a war criminal by removing his trident. He wants a war criminal (a pardon does not remove the guilty verdict, it only removes the sentence. He REMAINS a war criminal) to retire WITH HONOR from the Navy.
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Re: Trump pardoning war criminals...
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:35 pm

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smr wrote:Nice to see that you don't know the whole story. The story is on youtube. Take some time and find out all the facts because if you have have any compassion or humanity in your soul, you will take the NCO's side of the story. Specifically, focus in on the prosecutor's behavior. Also, look at NCIS investigators extracting false statements and threatening members that told the truth.

As far as taking a picture with a dead soldier...it happens all the time. In his case, he took a picture with rest of his platoon in front of a dead soldier. Why did no one else get charged? Food for thought. Remember this, if I tell you the story, you will discount the story because it came from me. If you find out the whole story yourself, you will find out the truth and maybe have a different opinion but at least you will know the whole story rather than looking like an idiot.

gcomeau wrote:...and then actively inserting himself into military disciplinary matters to protect said war criminals from any other disciplinary action against the pleading of the Pentagon not to completely undermine their ability to maintain discipline.

Let's hear the excuse making, so called patriots. We're talking about a guy whose ENTIRE OWN PLATOON turned him in and testified against him. Who is definitely 100% guilty. And not only will Trump not allow him to be sentenced, he won't even allow the Navy to put on a symbolic show of disciplining a war criminal by removing his trident. He wants a war criminal (a pardon does not remove the guilty verdict, it only removes the sentence. He REMAINS a war criminal) to retire WITH HONOR from the Navy.



Gceumo can't handle the truth.
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Re: Trump pardoning war criminals...
Post by gcomeau   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:53 pm

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smr wrote:Nice to see that you don't know the whole story. The story is on youtube.


I'm just going to leave that as a summary of smr (and TFLY's for that matter) entire worldview and approach to "research".

"I saw this youtube video that said!!!!""
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Re: Trump pardoning war criminals...
Post by smr   » Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:46 pm

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This time Gcomeau you got caught showing your ass. One, who created this forum post....Gcomeau. This means that as a man, you own this issue. Perhaps a person should know both sides and the evidence before passing moral judgement but that requires real effort.
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Re: Trump pardoning war criminals...
Post by gcomeau   » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:46 am

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smr wrote:This time Gcomeau you got caught showing your ass. One, who created this forum post....Gcomeau. This means that as a man, you own this issue. Perhaps a person should know both sides and the evidence before passing moral judgement but that requires real effort.


I'll just be over here chuckling in
not-quite-disbelief that you think watching youtube videos is the definition of "real effort".
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Re: Trump pardoning war criminals...
Post by smr   » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:10 am

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Bro, you can obtain this information a variety of ways for example potus radio and patriot radio. Both had extensive interviews about what happened and both agreed that that the case should have never gone to trial. Now one side is democrat and the other is pro Trump oosition.
So you listened to the interviews of the lawyers and what the prosecution did. What are the prosecutors misduct and what are the NCIS problems. If you know these valid concerns then you will be happy to articulate these points. or did you not do your homework again! Yes that is probably the heart of the matter because You are just intellectually lazy.

gcomeau wrote:
smr wrote:This time Gcomeau you got caught showing your ass. One, who created this forum post....Gcomeau. This means that as a man, you own this issue. Perhaps a person should know both sides and the evidence before passing moral judgement but that requires real effort.


I'll just be over here chuckling in
not-quite-disbelief that you think watching youtube videos is the definition of "real effort".
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Re: Trump pardoning war criminals...
Post by Dilandu   » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:09 am

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gcomeau wrote: Who is definitely 100% guilty.


Is he?
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Oh well, if shortening the front is what the Germans crave,
Let's shorten it to very end - the length of Fuhrer's grave.

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Re: Trump pardoning war criminals...
Post by Eyal   » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:59 pm

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smr wrote:Nice to see that you don't know the whole story. The story is on youtube. Take some time and find out all the facts because if you have have any compassion or humanity in your soul, you will take the NCO's side of the story. Specifically, focus in on the prosecutor's behavior. Also, look at NCIS investigators extracting false statements and threatening members that told the truth.

As far as taking a picture with a dead soldier...it happens all the time. In his case, he took a picture with rest of his platoon in front of a dead soldier. Why did no one else get charged? Food for thought. Remember this, if I tell you the story, you will discount the story because it came from me. If you find out the whole story yourself, you will find out the truth and maybe have a different opinion but at least you will know the whole story rather than looking like an idiot.

gcomeau wrote:...and then actively inserting himself into military disciplinary matters to protect said war criminals from any other disciplinary action against the pleading of the Pentagon not to completely undermine their ability to maintain discipline.

Let's hear the excuse making, so called patriots. We're talking about a guy whose ENTIRE OWN PLATOON turned him in and testified against him. Who is definitely 100% guilty. And not only will Trump not allow him to be sentenced, he won't even allow the Navy to put on a symbolic show of disciplining a war criminal by removing his trident. He wants a war criminal (a pardon does not remove the guilty verdict, it only removes the sentence. He REMAINS a war criminal) to retire WITH HONOR from the Navy.


It should be pointed out that even ignoring whatever he did in Iraq, his conduct during and after the trial constituted blatant insubordination and violated multiple regulations.
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Re: Trump pardoning war criminals...
Post by Joat42   » Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:37 pm

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smr wrote:Yes that is probably the heart of the matter because You are just intellectually lazy.

Oh, the irony:
smr wrote:Nice to see that you don't know the whole story. The story is on youtube.

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