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Post by Dilandu   » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:55 am

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Please tell me this is not true:

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2019/07/ ... ton-mural/

The San Francisco Board of Education unanimously voted last month in favor of painting over a George Washington mural series on a school wall depicting Washington standing over a Native American’s corpse and another in the company of slaves on his Mount Vernon estate.

“This is reparations,” Education Board Commissioner Mark Sanchez said in a KQED report when asked about the estimated $600,000 price tag for its removal. It could reportedly take a year to complete.

The 1,600-square-foot mural series titled “Life of Washington” was painted on San Francisco’s George Washington High School in 1936 by a Russian-American artist and Stanford University art professor Victor Arnautoff.


Because if it is true, and the work of great Arnautoff may be destroyed to "not depress" some students, then what's next? Book burning?
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Re: Please tell me this is a fake news...
Post by Michael Everett   » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:27 pm

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It's expected.
American students stereotypically dislike studying history to the point that several American teachers have reported that their students are surprised that America won the War of Independence.

Having one of America's Greatest Heroes not being a Paragon Of Respectability is highly uncomfortable for many educators (and those that they have educated), so re-writing/blurring history is, for them, the only rational choice.
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Re: Please tell me this is a fake news...
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:23 pm

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It is true.

America's liberals are insane.

Hell, I can't even watch BLAZING SADDLES on television without getting an edited version that obscures the humor that was employed to expose the rampant racism of the era. The only joke that addresses the racism that survives even somewhat intact disparages the drunken Irish.
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Re: Please tell me this is a fake news...
Post by gcomeau   » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:34 pm

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Michael Everett wrote:It's expected.
American students stereotypically dislike studying history to the point that several American teachers have reported that their students are surprised that America won the War of Independence.

Having one of America's Greatest Heroes not being a Paragon Of Respectability is highly uncomfortable for many educators (and those that they have educated), so re-writing/blurring history is, for them, the only rational choice.


The liberal objection is the exact opposite of being uncomfortable teaching the Founders flaws.

They want them taught. They don't want them *celebrated*.

Yes, teach Washington owned slaves and had a problematic record with dealing with Native Americans.

No, do not put up monuments glorifying that behavior.

(Same principle goes for Confederate White Supremacist traitors)
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Re: Please tell me this is a fake news...
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:33 pm

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gcomeau wrote:
Michael Everett wrote:It's expected.
American students stereotypically dislike studying history to the point that several American teachers have reported that their students are surprised that America won the War of Independence.

Having one of America's Greatest Heroes not being a Paragon Of Respectability is highly uncomfortable for many educators (and those that they have educated), so re-writing/blurring history is, for them, the only rational choice.


The liberal objection is the exact opposite of being uncomfortable teaching the Founders flaws.

They want them taught. They don't want them *celebrated*.

Yes, teach Washington owned slaves and had a problematic record with dealing with Native Americans.

No, do not put up monuments glorifying that behavior.

(Same principle goes for Confederate White Supremacist traitors)



Washington's politically incorrect behsviors not withstanding, he was a founding father and is worthy of monuments. All of thr butt hurt little bitches who are protesting should sit down and shut up.
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Re: Please tell me this is a fake news...
Post by gcomeau   » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:40 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:
gcomeau wrote:
The liberal objection is the exact opposite of being uncomfortable teaching the Founders flaws.

They want them taught. They don't want them *celebrated*.

Yes, teach Washington owned slaves and had a problematic record with dealing with Native Americans.

No, do not put up monuments glorifying that behavior.

(Same principle goes for Confederate White Supremacist traitors)



Washington's politically incorrect behsviors not withstanding, he was a founding father and is worthy of monuments. All of thr butt hurt little bitches who are protesting should sit down and shut up.


Nobody said no monuments to Washington.

I said no monuments glorifying things like Washington's slave ownership.
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Re: Please tell me this is a fake news...
Post by Daryl   » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:46 am

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I said no monuments glorifying things like Washington's slave ownership.


Or his growing marijuana?
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Re: Please tell me this is a fake news...
Post by Dilandu   » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:39 am

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gcomeau wrote:
Nobody said no monuments to Washington.

I said no monuments glorifying things like Washington's slave ownership.


In other words, you say it is right to destroy works of great artist just because they depicted the uncomfortable truth?
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Re: Please tell me this is a fake news...
Post by The E   » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:41 am

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Dilandu wrote:In other words, you say it is right to destroy works of great artist just because they depicted the uncomfortable truth?


The intent behind those murals was good. The message is still valid.

But.

That doesn't mean that they must be sacrosanct. If the community that actually has to live with them (as opposed to the many voices in the article you quoted who don't) decides that those messages and how they're framed aren't what they want around them, that is as valid an expression as the original artistic one was.
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Re: Please tell me this is a fake news...
Post by gcomeau   » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:46 am

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Dilandu wrote:
gcomeau wrote:
Nobody said no monuments to Washington.

I said no monuments glorifying things like Washington's slave ownership.


In other words, you say it is right to destroy works of great artist just because they depicted the uncomfortable truth?


That is the exact freaking opposite of what I said.
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