Oops.

https://www.ctpost.com/local/article/La ... 005437.php

Look who accidentally sent some of the child porn in his files to the Sandy Hook victims lawyers as part of the discovery in the lawsuit against him.

Jones’ lawyers had previously been ordered by Judge to turn over vast amounts of electronically stored data on Jones’ business operations.

Court documents stated that the Sandy Hook lawyers had begun reviewing the electronic files that Jones had turned over when they found child pornography in the files. They immediately contacted the FBI.

“The FBI advised counsel that its review located numerous additional illegal images, which had apparently been sent to InfoWars email addresses,” they stated.

gcomeau wrote:https://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Lawyers-Alex-Jones-sent-child-porn-to-Sandy-Hook-14005437.php

Look who accidentally sent some of the child porn in his files to the Sandy Hook victims lawyers as part of the discovery in the lawsuit against him.

While I'm really not against dunking on Alex Jones at every opportunity, this is not one of those. According to the lawyers who reviewed the material and the FBI, the child porn in those email dumps was found in emails sent to infowars.com, not in emails originating from them. There is also no indication that Jones ever solicited child porn to be sent to him, so in the absence of firm proof that he did, the assumption of innocence must hold.

That said, we can still dunk on Jones (extensively) because of his handling of this matter: Screaming and whining about the evil lawyers who ... did what the law required of them.

On the plus side, we can be pretty sure they didn't scrub the emails for anything incriminating.

The people who should be sued are the cops who cowered in the parking lot while they waited for the shooting to stop.

TFLYTSNBN wrote:The people who should be sued are the cops who cowered in the parking lot while they waited for the shooting to stop.

Because the correct response to an active shooter/potential hostage situation involving hundreds of children is always to charge in immediately guns blazing hollywood style.

It must be nice for life to be so simple for you.

(None of which has to do with what an absolute piece of shit Alex Jones is for deliberately traumatizing the families of those children with his bullshit conspiracy theorizing just so he can make money off gullible paranoid morons.)

gcomeau wrote:Because the correct response to an active shooter/potential hostage situation involving hundreds of children is always to charge in immediately guns blazing hollywood style.

It must be nice for life to be so simple for you.

(None of which has to do with what an absolute piece of shit Alex Jones is for deliberately traumatizing the families of those children with his bullshit conspiracy theorizing just so he can make money off gullible paranoid morons.)

Was this the incident where the guy was being charged for staying outside during the shooting? Because if so, I think he's actually being sued, too.

noblehunter wrote:

gcomeau wrote:Because the correct response to an active shooter/potential hostage situation involving hundreds of children is always to charge in immediately guns blazing hollywood style.

It must be nice for life to be so simple for you.

(None of which has to do with what an absolute piece of shit Alex Jones is for deliberately traumatizing the families of those children with his bullshit conspiracy theorizing just so he can make money off gullible paranoid morons.)

Was this the incident where the guy was being charged for staying outside during the shooting? Because if so, I think he's actually being sued, too.

No, pretty sure that was Parkland in Florida.

This was Sandy Hook in Connecticut.

(You can be excused for mixing up which school shooting is which considering how many of them the US has...)

TFLYTSNBN wrote:The people who should be sued are the cops who cowered in the parking lot while they waited for the shooting to stop.

The Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Timeline on Wikipedia and the State Attorney's Report is this:


"9:35 a.m. Lanza is believed to first enter SHES.
9:35:39 a.m. First 911 call to Newtown Police is received.
9:36:06 a.m. 911 dispatcher broadcasts shooting at SHES.
9:37:38 a.m. Connecticut State Police dispatched to SHES.
9:39:00 a.m. First Newtown police arrives behind SHES.
9:39:13 a.m. Two more Newtown officers arrive at SHES.
9:39:40 a.m. Newtown officer encounters unknown male running along the east side of SHES with something in his hand.
9:40:03 a.m. Last shot heard. Believed to be Lanza's suicide.
9:41:24 a.m. Newtown officer has unknown male prone on ground, starting information relay regarding possibly more than one shooter.
9:42:39 a.m. Newtown police reports Lanza's car license plate.
9:44:47 a.m. Newtown police officers enter SHES."

So 1 minute and 3 seconds after the first police arrive at the back of the school the shooter is dead. 5 minutes and 47 seconds after the first police arrive on the scene an entry is made into the building. During those almost 6 minutes the police identify the shooters car and detain an unknown male. So they are doing more than cowering in the parking lot waiting for the shooting to stop. The unknown male turned out to be a parent with a cell phone in their hand.

After reading the synopsis given in these reports it sounds like the first officers on the scene reacted with speed and in an intelligent manner. They identified someone who was not supposed to be there, even though they were not the shooter, and identified the shooters car and reported it to higher. Without knowing exactly where the shooter was and how many shooters they were dealing with I do not see that the police could have reduced the number of lives lost in the 1 minute and 3 seconds they had between arrival and the last shot being fired. With perfect knowledge the first officer possibly could have gotten their car to the office entrance and then raced in to engage the shooter before they killed the last child or two and took their own life. But in the time they had and the knowledge they possessed I do not think they did anything wrong.

What is your basis for believing that that they should be sued for cowering in the parking lot?

No, the more interesting question is why fly felt the need to bring this issue into a thread only tangentially related. It's not as if any potential police misconduct (which, as thunder child points out, is impossible to prove given the timeline of events) cancels out the absolutely provable misconduct Jones is accused of here.