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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:19 pm

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And we have this story.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... uth-london

The aspect of this story that should terrify Londoners is that it appears that police will not be solving one of the murders and some of the non fatal stabbings. This will embolden the criminals to commit more assaults.
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by edgeworthy   » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:39 pm

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Trump is attacking his arch-nemesis, the Mayor of London!?

"He is a national disgrace who is destroying the City of London"
"LONDON needs a new mayor ASAP. Khan is a disaster - will only get worse!"

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/hes-a-national-disgrace-trump-attacks-khan-after-three-killed-in-london/ar-AACVxzO?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=HPCDHP

Its interesting that he's attacking Sadiq Khan for there being 3 violent murders in one day in London when there were 26 Gun Deaths in the United States yesterday!?

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/number-of-gun-deaths

Including one Mass Shooting in DesMoines, that alone killed more people than London. There have been more Mass Shootings in the US this year than fatal stabbings in the UK!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019

The murder rate in the United Kingdom is 1.22 per 100,000, compared to 5.35 per 100,000 in the United States, that's over 4 times greater, and Britain is the one with the problem?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:16 am

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edgeworthy wrote:Trump is attacking his arch-nemesis, the Mayor of London!?

"He is a national disgrace who is destroying the City of London"
"LONDON needs a new mayor ASAP. Khan is a disaster - will only get worse!"

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/hes-a-national-disgrace-trump-attacks-khan-after-three-killed-in-london/ar-AACVxzO?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=HPCDHP

Its interesting that he's attacking Sadiq Khan for there being 3 violent murders in one day in London when there were 26 Gun Deaths in the United States yesterday!?

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/number-of-gun-deaths

Including one Mass Shooting in DesMoines, that alone killed more people than London. There have been more Mass Shootings in the US this year than fatal stabbings in the UK!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019

The murder rate in the United Kingdom is 1.22 per 100,000, compared to 5.35 per 100,000 in the United States, that's over 4 times greater, and Britain is the one with the problem?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate



So you are comparing the number of murders in London to the number of murders in the entire US when the US has 30 times the population of London?

You cite a familicide as a mass shooting?
You have plenty in your own, gun controlled countries:

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/new ... 6520006251

https://www.theguardian.com/news/bush-m ... -australia

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/b ... 1cca151624

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-17097802

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_r ... _in_Europe)

Just FYI, FBI data reveals that the vast majority of young children who are murdered in the US are killed by their mothers, mosthers' boyfriends, fathers or siblings. In spite of the prevalence of guns in the US, 80% of murdered children are NOT killed with guns, they are beaten, bludgeoned, strangled, burned and stabbed to death. Yes, the US does have an extremely large number of young children who are murdered compared to most "civilized" countries, but guns are obviously not the cause. That vast disparity in homicide rates between African-Americans and Hispanic Americans verses caucasion-Americans and Asian-Americans that you do not want to talk about extends to child homicides.
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by The E   » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:40 am

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Ahhh, TFLY's reasoning skills are back in action!

By which I mean his peculiar habit of stopping to read a post once he finds something he disagrees with as if one mistake invalidates everything else.

In this case (sorry, edgeworthy), he can't get past the bogus "Murders in London vs Murders in the US as a whole" thing -- completely ignoring the Des Moines thing, completely ignoring the UK vs US comparison.

I wonder why he does this? Is it because he just doesn't have a real response to this except all the *totally not racist* "blacks and latinos kill so many people" thing?


It's kinda funny, seeing TFLY and the rest of the rightosphere follow Trump wherever he goes. "European cities are so unsafe!", they say, completely ignoring how even the least safe EU country is still much safer than most US states.
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by edgeworthy   » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:10 pm

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The E wrote:Ahhh, TFLY's reasoning skills are back in action!

By which I mean his peculiar habit of stopping to read a post once he finds something he disagrees with as if one mistake invalidates everything else.

In this case (sorry, edgeworthy), he can't get past the bogus "Murders in London vs Murders in the US as a whole" thing -- completely ignoring the Des Moines thing, completely ignoring the UK vs US comparison.

I wonder why he does this? Is it because he just doesn't have a real response to this except all the *totally not racist* "blacks and latinos kill so many people" thing?


It's kinda funny, seeing TFLY and the rest of the rightosphere follow Trump wherever he goes. "European cities are so unsafe!", they say, completely ignoring how even the least safe EU country is still much safer than most US states.


And should we mention that you are vastly more likely to be shot by the Police in the US than anywhere in Europe. For example my local Constabulary, which is responsible for Policing a population greater than that of 13 of the US States, individually not all together, has in the 180 years of its existence shot a grand total of absolutely no-one at all!
Last year the British Police fatally shot 1 person, US Law Enforcement managed to kill 996 people!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_k ... _countries
Which is more than the British Police have ever managed in recorded history, by an entire order of magnitude.(That's 10 times)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_k ... ed_Kingdom
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:34 pm

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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by edgeworthy   » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:50 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:Now to get totally ludicrous.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/uk-police ... se-victims

I'm amused that it took them a week to notice something everyone else already knew!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 55141.html
... but if you like your news Third Hand!?
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:02 am

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edgeworthy wrote:
The E wrote:Ahhh, TFLY's reasoning skills are back in action!

By which I mean his peculiar habit of stopping to read a post once he finds something he disagrees with as if one mistake invalidates everything else.

In this case (sorry, edgeworthy), he can't get past the bogus "Murders in London vs Murders in the US as a whole" thing -- completely ignoring the Des Moines thing, completely ignoring the UK vs US comparison.

I wonder why he does this? Is it because he just doesn't have a real response to this except all the *totally not racist* "blacks and latinos kill so many people" thing?


It's kinda funny, seeing TFLY and the rest of the rightosphere follow Trump wherever he goes. "European cities are so unsafe!", they say, completely ignoring how even the least safe EU country is still much safer than most US states.


And should we mention that you are vastly more likely to be shot by the Police in the US than anywhere in Europe. For example my local Constabulary, which is responsible for Policing a population greater than that of 13 of the US States, individually not all together, has in the 180 years of its existence shot a grand total of absolutely no-one at all!
Last year the British Police fatally shot 1 person, US Law Enforcement managed to kill 996 people!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_k ... _countries
Which is more than the British Police have ever managed in recorded history, by an entire order of magnitude.(That's 10 times)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_k ... ed_Kingdom



You will get no argument from me regarding police in the US killing too many people. I blame President Clinton for conditioning many police to suffer from a Freudian Phobia of being outgunned by the criminals.

On the other hand, the little darlings that police your country wouldn't be able to survive even one week of policing a major US city, even if our criminals refrained from shooting them. If your cops didn't get themselves beaten, strangled, stabbed, burned or drowned to death, our criminals would amuse themselves by gang raping them.
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by The E   » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:37 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:On the other hand, the little darlings that police your country wouldn't be able to survive even one week of policing a major US city, even if our criminals refrained from shooting them. If your cops didn't get themselves beaten, strangled, stabbed, burned or drowned to death, our criminals would amuse themselves by gang raping them.


The way you keep proving that the european way of strict weapons regulation works very well in creating safe environments is eternally fascinating to me.
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:55 pm

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The E wrote:
TFLYTSNBN wrote:On the other hand, the little darlings that police your country wouldn't be able to survive even one week of policing a major US city, even if our criminals refrained from shooting them. If your cops didn't get themselves beaten, strangled, stabbed, burned or drowned to death, our criminals would amuse themselves by gang raping them.


The way you keep proving that the european way of strict weapons regulation works very well in creating safe environments is eternally fascinating to me.



The way you keep ignoring the faft that countries that have European style gun control laws have horrendous homicide rates because they not only have demographics similar to the worst of US cities but also dysfunctional criminal justice systems astonishes me. Even more astonishing is how steadfastly you Eurosnobs ignore the evidence that your changing demographics are rendering your criminal justice systems dysfunctional. Distributing knives with blunted tips is not going to save you.
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