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What has Trump done right so far?

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Re: What has Trump done right so far?
Post by cthia   » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:13 pm

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cthia wrote:He ordered all Kaspersky software to be removed from all government computers. Though military computers never used it anyway.

Why the hell the American government or its citizens would ever utilize Russian internet security software is completely baffling, at least to me. As I stated quite a while back in another thread. It is like Manticore asking a League company on Old Earth to ensure its communications. Wait. What?

I worked as a Civil Engineer for a company that insisted it be put on all of our own personal computers since we would be interfacing with theirs. And since they were purchasing it for us they thought we'd have no reason not to comply. I told them no. They threatened to let me go. I let myself go and the department head was fired. I was hired back with a sizeable increase in salary. They made me an offer I couldn't refuse. Let me write my own ticket.

I contacted one of the department heads who is now working for another company out in the Valley. He said to me, "Have you been watching the news? You warned us about that eons ago."

"Why do you think I'm ringing you? To gloat."

We both got a laugh out of that.

"How could we have been so naive," he asks.

"Beats the heck out of me."


Oh my, did I call this thing from miles away. I've never used Russian software. It is absolutely ludicrous.

New N.S.A Breach Linked to popular Russian Antivirus Software

How Israel Caught Russian Hackers Scouring the World for U.S. Secrets.

The World Once Laughed at North Korean Cyberpower. No More.

I called this thing years ago! Years!

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Re: What has Trump done right so far?
Post by biochem   » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:20 pm

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For context - The establishment Republican outlets hate Trump because he isn't a real conservative, he's not one of the in crowd and of course his wonderful personality. But he is president so they tolerate him. Generally they are neutral not cheerleaders. As we approach I year they've started to summarize some of the things they think he is doing right

Hoover institute
https://www.hoover.org/research/trumps- ... tive-chaos

Federalist
http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/26/don ... y-neglect/
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Re: What has Trump done right so far?
Post by Annachie   » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:43 pm

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Given that the Federalist article makes basic mistakes, the only article I read, I suspect that that list of things President Trump is doing right is much smaller than you think.
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Re: What has Trump done right so far?
Post by Tenshinai   » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:10 am

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cthia wrote:Oh my, did I call this thing from miles away. I've never used Russian software. It is absolutely ludicrous.

New N.S.A Breach Linked to popular Russian Antivirus Software

How Israel Caught Russian Hackers Scouring the World for U.S. Secrets.

The World Once Laughed at North Korean Cyberpower. No More.

I called this thing years ago! Years!


Well duh.
Have good education in something in a nation and you will get people there misusing it.

"Russian software" overall is high quality and reliable, trying to bash it with guilt by association as a monolithic whole is just pathetic.

Why the hell the American government or its citizens would ever utilize Russian internet security software is completely baffling, at least to me. As I stated quite a while back in another thread. It is like Manticore asking a League company on Old Earth to ensure its communications. Wait. What?


You can't see the obvious? Wow.
They started using it because it was the best available, simple as that.

"How could we have been so naive," he asks.


Oh yes, lets get one of the AVs that come preinstalled with actual spyware from CIA or NSA instead(depending on which), so much better.

Do you know which ones that is?
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Re: What has Trump done right so far?
Post by gcomeau   » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:44 pm

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Tenshinai wrote:
cthia wrote:Why the hell the American government or its citizens would ever utilize Russian internet security software is completely baffling, at least to me. As I stated quite a while back in another thread. It is like Manticore asking a League company on Old Earth to ensure its communications. Wait. What?


You can't see the obvious? Wow.
They started using it because it was the best available, simple as that.


"German encryption technology is very effective, why wouldn't we use it? It's so obvious!" ....said nobody among the Allies during the 1930s and 40s.


Russia is OPENLY HOSTILE to the US government. That's why you don't use Russian made SW in US government systems you nitwit. And the fact that you are incapable of even comprehending that tells us all how seriously to take your "oh all this negative reporting about Russia is fake news/evil US conspiracy" bullshit.
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Re: What has Trump done right so far?
Post by cthia   » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:07 pm

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Tenshinai wrote:
cthia wrote:Why the hell the American government or its citizens would ever utilize Russian internet security software is completely baffling, at least to me. As I stated quite a while back in another thread. It is like Manticore asking a League company on Old Earth to ensure its communications. Wait. What?


You can't see the obvious? Wow.
They started using it because it was the best available, simple as that.
gcomeau wrote:"German encryption technology is very effective, why wouldn't we use it? It's so obvious!" ....said nobody among the Allies during the 1930s and 40s.


Russia is OPENLY HOSTILE to the US government. That's why you don't use Russian made SW in US government systems you nitwit. And the fact that you are incapable of even comprehending that tells us all how seriously to take your "oh all this negative reporting about Russia is fake news/evil US conspiracy" bullshit.

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Re: What has Trump done right so far?
Post by biochem   » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:01 pm

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Annachie wrote:Given that the Federalist article makes basic mistakes, the only article I read, I suspect that that list of things President Trump is doing right is much smaller than you think.



In the case of the Federalist article, it sums up as we hate him for (insert list of reasons) followed by but we like what he is doing with regulations (followed by list of specifics) and congress had better get off its duff and hardware the changes into law so the next Democrat can't change them back. At least with Trump they are getting (list of regulations) if Hillary had been elected it would have been: we hate her for (list of reasons) but there would have been no (list of regulations) to soften the blow.
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Re: What has Trump done right so far?
Post by Tenshinai   » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:13 pm

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gcomeau wrote:
"German encryption technology is very effective, why wouldn't we use it? It's so obvious!" ....said nobody among the Allies during the 1930s and 40s.


Russia is OPENLY HOSTILE to the US government. That's why you don't use Russian made SW in US government systems you nitwit. And the fact that you are incapable of even comprehending that tells us all how seriously to take your "oh all this negative reporting about Russia is fake news/evil US conspiracy" bullshit.


*facepalm*

No, the US government is openly hostile to Russia, not the other way around (although with all the slander thrown at them, i expect it is a matter of time).

You would notice if you bothered to listen to what both sides say, and then checked what they actually DID.



Now then, now that a leak has confirmed that the DNC "hack" isn't physically possible to be a hack, lets hear what you say about how obviously it was a hack and EVERYONE just KNEW it was.

Come one, tell me how 16GB of data gets downloaded over a 100Mb internet connection in 87 seconds.
Please, do tell.

Oh right, it's not even possible if the system in question had a 1Gb connection AND a perfect transoceanic line all by itself.


And remember that even the idiots still trying to discredit the leak, outright avoids claiming the leak itself is incorrect.
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Re: What has Trump done right so far?
Post by gcomeau   » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:20 pm

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Tenshinai wrote:
gcomeau wrote:
"German encryption technology is very effective, why wouldn't we use it? It's so obvious!" ....said nobody among the Allies during the 1930s and 40s.


Russia is OPENLY HOSTILE to the US government. That's why you don't use Russian made SW in US government systems you nitwit. And the fact that you are incapable of even comprehending that tells us all how seriously to take your "oh all this negative reporting about Russia is fake news/evil US conspiracy" bullshit.


*facepalm*

No, the US government is openly hostile to Russia, not the other way around (although with all the slander thrown at them, i expect it is a matter of time).

You would notice if you bothered to listen to what both sides say, and then checked what they actually DID.


Ummm.... yeah. Done that.

Yes, of course the US is also adversarial towards Russia, but Putin has long had as one of his primary goals undermining US influence and power in the world because it is an impediment to his own ambitions. And they DID launch a cyber warfare attack on the US elections in furtherance of this goal.

Fact.
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Re: What has Trump done right so far?
Post by cthia   » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:23 pm

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Tenshinai, you've got your head shoved so far up your ass you need a Proctologist with a harpoon to get it out.

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