Taras_Potatos wrote:Now I get it. You are reading the picture entirely wrong. Yanukovych IS Putins puppet.
And if that was actually true, he would have acted in the best interests of Putin.
He didn´t. He acted like a greedy, powermongering idiot.
Taras_Potatos wrote:You know? Back in 2004 he greeted Yanek several times before inauguration.
By that logic, your current government are stooges of EU and USA, just like Tymoshenko.
Sorry, doesn´t work like that. Politicians run off meeting with potential leaders in other nations all the time. That´s business as usual.
Taras_Potatos wrote:Our army was systematically corrupted. One fact. L’viv was military center of this region for last 400 years, by all regimes and 2013 this bastard decided to move Western Operational Command to Rivne under the guise of reform!
Eh... I´m sorry, is that supposed to be proof of his evilness or something?
That´s a puny, barely even noteworthy change compared to what current government here has been doing the last 7 years.
And the morons HERE are just doing it because they´re cheapskates and morons.
First rule of politics, don´t attribute to malice what stupidity can explain.
Taras_Potatos wrote:And don’t say a single word about election in 2015! Look at this! One of Yaneks residence. http://open-ua.com/kiev_region/mezhigorie/en/ And his cronies are cut from the same piece of cloth. You really think that this man would allow any free election?
As free elections as Ukraine has already had, very likely yes. If he lost(not a guarantee even with free elections up until the revolutionary mess), he would probably have run off with a crapload of public money, but he wasn´t showing any real signs of making himself a lifetime dictator.
Taras_Potatos wrote:And all the time we transported all gas dedicated for EU, sometimes from our own storages.
Eh, no. Even your own government that was involved have stated, several times, once even by a minister on a live news broadcast, that Ukraine was diverting gas, not the other way around.
Taras_Potatos wrote:The episode that you describes was a masterful trap set by Gasprom and oligarch Dmytro Firtash(The owner of the gas) and performed by Yulia Tymoshenko.
A trap? Russia adhered to an international agreement about reducing/removing subsidies on gas prices. They did so in Russia, they did so with export prices, and then spent 2 years with Ukraine trying to not pay the same prices as everyone else. Even including Belarus!
If it was a trap it was incompetently done by Russia. And do you really think that they would do something like THAT, so poorly?
Taras_Potatos wrote:Fond of ruSSian propaganda?
Not really. No more than i am fond of anti-Russian propaganda. And there´s about a million to one ratio of the latter compared to the former right now. Actually it´s probably much worse than that.
And the thing is, i saw a lot of it coming. Before the anti-Russian propaganda flooding began, even just from regular media it was obvious what was happening, that the EU and USA were meddling in Ukraine and that it was just a matter of time until Russia would do something.
Then came the latest "revolution"... Oh yeah, great idea to make absolutely sure something was going to happen.
Taras_Potatos wrote:Are you still sayng something ‘bout nazi?
Why wouldn´t i? They modelled themselves on the original German NSDAP, but off course they can´t use the exact same "politics" or ideology as that would mean that they declare themselves as "untermensch".
So instead they went nationalist. Have you bothered to check some of the things they´ve been saying over the last decade?
Nationalist fanatic lunatics seems to be common within the party.
And the "Greater Ukraine" stuff? I mean hello? They are actually arguing for absorbing parts of Poland, Belarus, Lithaunia, Romania and Russia... Eh... Marvellous ideas... No. Just no. Those kind of people in charge of the military and you think Russia doesn´t have a kneejerk reaction?
Doesn´t even matter any longer at that point who´s right or wrong. Which is why it was so utterly stupid to push it to that point.
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