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Re: US Election
Post by penny   » Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:25 pm

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The E wrote:
penny wrote:Right when I was going to come on this site and post about whether those Mega Donors who were bitching for Biden to drop out of the race would now donate to Kamala I saw this:

https://nypost.com/2024/07/22/us-news/b ... eat-trump/


Yeah, well, who cares about "megadonors"
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cxx2d25l634o

Democrats have poured $81m (£62m) in donations into Vice-President Kamala Harris' presidential campaign since President Joe Biden dropped out of the race on Sunday.
It is the largest 24-hour period of campaign funding in presidential history with more than 888,000 donors making contributions of less than $200 in the day after Mr Biden stepped aside.
“Grassroots supporters are energized and excited to support her as the Democratic nominee,” ActBlue, the progressive donation platform, said on X.

Megadonors have fans who they bring with them to the party. It was not too long ago before Hollywood actors began to be called upon to loudly declare their presidential candidate. If you have a platform, do not be afraid to use it. See Taylor Swift and her countless number of Swifties. George Clooney was who I spoke of earlier.

A very influential megadonor can have as much, if not more, impact on the presidential race as a Barack Obama. And that is saying a lot. Again, Taylor Swift's impact on the race is immeasurable. Look what she did for the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Re: US Election
Post by Arol   » Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:17 am

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https://www.businesstoday.in/world/us/s ... 2024-07-27

She doesn't like Jewish people…': Donald Trump calls Kamala Harris 'anti-Semite


I think that some time ago, I in this thread said that; Trump for all his faults, wasn’t stupid. Well I was wrong and retract that. Saying that Ms. Harris doesn’t like Jews, must have come as a great surprise for her husband who is…JEWISH! :shock: :lol:
The Trump/Vance team is going all out trying to smoosh undecided voters. Well, Trump with the statement above, and Vance with his “childless cat-ladies “quote in his baggage would tend to prove the opposite!
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Re: US Election
Post by The E   » Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:44 am

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Here's an observation about the coverage of this election:

Remember how the age of the candidates was a huge issue when it was Biden vs Trump?

Notice how now that Biden's out of the race, age no longer seems to be all that important?

Kinda strange, that, isn't it.
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Re: US Election
Post by Arol   » Sat Jul 27, 2024 5:30 pm

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Trump Calls Harris a ‘Bum’


https://politicalwire.com/2024/07/26/tr ... ris-a-bum/

Here you have a candidate for the highest position in your country, stooping to calling an opponent “a bum”! A BUM! A word totally without any meaning in any political context!
A pejorative that might hear used in a bare-knuckle street fight, and yet here it was used in an open political rally attended by the world media.
It simply shows that Trump is fighting outside his weight class that he has to resort to such crass methods.
That brings us to the scheduled party leader debate.
Right now he is back-peddling by saying that Kamala is not the designated opponent.
Something that will change after the Dem Convention, after which he will be stuck between the rock and the hard place! Agree to the debate, and have her tear him a new one, or weasel out with some lame ass excuse.
Which I’m sure Dem speech-writers are already busy at their word-processors countering with articles containing variations of the word “chicken”! ;) :lol:
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Re: US Election
Post by edgeworthy   » Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:46 pm

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Arol wrote:
Trump Calls Harris a ‘Bum’


https://politicalwire.com/2024/07/26/tr ... ris-a-bum/

Here you have a candidate for the highest position in your country, stooping to calling an opponent “a bum”! A BUM! A word totally without any meaning in any political context!
A pejorative that might hear used in a bare-knuckle street fight, and yet here it was used in an open political rally attended by the world media.
It simply shows that Trump is fighting outside his weight class that he has to resort to such crass methods.
That brings us to the scheduled party leader debate.
Right now he is back-peddling by saying that Kamala is not the designated opponent.
Something that will change after the Dem Convention, after which he will be stuck between the rock and the hard place! Agree to the debate, and have her tear him a new one, or weasel out with some lame ass excuse.
Which I’m sure Dem speech-writers are already busy at their word-processors countering with articles containing variations of the word “chicken”! ;) :lol:

One of the Fox News Talking Heads tried to attack Harris by saying that she was particularly giving when it came to a certain act of physical intimacy. (Of course they put it in American Frat-Boy speak)
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Re: US Election
Post by Arol   » Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:49 pm

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edgeworthy wrote:One of the Fox News Talking Heads tried to attack Harris by saying that she was particularly giving when it came to a certain act of physical intimacy. (Of course they put it in American Frat-Boy speak)

Using prurient sleaze like this is just goes to prove that the Trump/Vance campaign are shitting green bricks over the Dems upsurge, since Biden stepped aside.
Once Karmala is confirmed at the Dem convention, just watch it get worse!
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Re: US Election
Post by Daryl   » Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:05 am

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The latest I've heard here (at the opposite side of the world) is Trump telling an audience of alt right fundamentalist Christians, "Vote for me next time and you won't have to vote ever again".
Putting that with Project 2025 and you start to worry.
Now, assuming he does lose, will Leyroy and Bubba all over the US grab their AR15s, get into their pickups and go to Washington to start shooting communists?
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Re: US Election
Post by Arol   » Sun Jul 28, 2024 6:00 pm

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Daryl wrote:The latest I've heard here (at the opposite side of the world) is Trump telling an audience of alt right fundamentalist Christians, "Vote for me next time and you won't have to vote ever again".
Putting that with Project 2025 and you start to worry.
Now, assuming he does lose, will Leyroy and Bubba all over the US grab their AR15s, get into their pickups and go to Washington to start shooting communists?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0iAmz9iLM
Trump:
“I’ll be a Dictator on Day One!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duls1Cr1Lyo
Trump:
“You’ll never have ([be able?) to vote again!”[/b]

Two statements from someone obviously suffering from delusions of grandeur!
But when the statements have come from someone who is vying to become leader of the richest most powerful country on the planet, maybe they should be taken with more than a grain of salt.
Now, especially the latter, does raise the question, that since voters are now redundant, what about the politicians and their parties, especially the party that put him in power to render them redundant? One would have to wonder how they would feel about being rendered redundant
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Re: US Election
Post by Arol   » Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:26 pm

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In another forum I happened to come across an article that pretty well brought up to date the current US Presidential race.
It’s comprehensive, and exceedingly well researched, but most important extremely insightful, as such well worth the read! ;)
Letter From America

by Heather Cox Richardson
The 2024 election is shaping up to be bizarre on the Republican side. The party’s presidential nominee, former president Donald Trump, has largely stayed home and posted on social media while his vice presidential running mate J.D. Vance has been trying to cover the campaigning for the team. Indeed, Vance’s offer on Wednesday during a rally in Eau Claire, Wisconsin, to debate Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris suggests that Vance is not unwilling to be seen as the face, if not the leader, of the Republican ticket.

The actual presidential nominee appears even more unstable than usual, and it certainly appears that his handlers are trying to keep him off stage. As Tom Nichols of The Atlantic noted yesterday, “When Trump is on TV a lot, his approval goes down. When he’s in hiding and his surrogates are rearranging his bonkers crazypants word salads into something like real thoughts, his approval goes up.”

Observers, including Jackie Calmes of the Los Angeles Times, have been clear that “Donald Trump’s state of mind should be under debate.” “Trump’s fire hose of cray-cray has inured Americans to his outrages,” Calmes wrote today. “But now that President Biden, a normal and empathetic man, has been pushed out of the 2024 race over concerns about his age and mental acuity, Trump’s more manifest unfitness for office should be ignored no longer—by the media, former advisors and military leaders who remain silent and, yes, Republicans.”

Trump held a surprise “press conference” on Thursday, where, according to a team of reporters and editors at NPR, he misstated things, exaggerated, or lied outright at least 162 times in 64 minutes, a rate of more than two times a minute.

He said that the United States “is in the most dangerous position it’s ever been in from an economic standpoint,” and warned we could end up in another depression like the Great Depression of the 1930s. In fact, the economy is strong and growing at a faster rate than it did in three of the four years of Trump’s presidency.

He warned of a national crime wave although crime has been plummeting after a surge in 2020, during Trump’s term, and said that we are “very close to a world war,” which illustrates that Trump’s main lever to turn out voters is fear. With the successes of the Biden-Harris administration having neutralized the economic fears that worked in the past, and with the goals of antiabortion activists achieved in 2022 with the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision, Trump is apparently going for broke with the threat of World War III.

Altogether, the event did Trump no favors.

Poll numbers for Harris and her running mate Minnesota governor Tim Walz have climbed since President Joe Biden announced on July 21 he would not accept the Democratic nomination, and observers have reported that Trump’s anger is leading him into unforced errors, picking fights with allies and seemingly unable to let go of his focus on the lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him, a focus that his advisors warn is turning off voters.

Trump has repeatedly seemed to fantasize that Biden will return to the head of the Democratic ticket, and on Sunday, seemingly frantic about Harris’s huge rallies while he can no longer attract big crowds, released a rant accusing Vice President Harris of using AI to create fake footage showing large groups of supporters greeting her airplane. Faking crowds with AI is a technique we know Trump uses, but there is no evidence Harris does. Immediately, people who attended her events released their own videos proving the size of the crowds, and political pundits openly questioned Trump’s mental health.

Then, this morning, Trump posted on his social media channel: “I’m doing really well in the Presidential Race, leading in almost all of the REAL Polls, and this despite the Democrats unprecedentedly changing their Primary Winning Candidate, Sleepy Joe Biden, midstream.” He went on until his closing: “We are going to WIN BIG and take our Country back from the Radical Left Losers, Fascists, and Communists. We will, very quickly, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” This afternoon, Five Thirty Eight showed Harris up 2.7 points in the national polling average.

Trump’s advisors are pleading with him to stop name-calling and to stay on message. His campaign began today to run ads on X that look like his tweets but are much more like standard political ads.

Tonight, X owner Elon Musk planned to “interview” Trump, although it seemed pretty clear the event was intended simply to be a long advertisement for him. European Union commissioner for Internal Market Thierry Breton wrote an open letter to Musk warning about E.U. laws against amplifying harmful content “that promotes hatred, disorder, incitement to violence, or certain instances of disinformation.” Breton warned that his team “will be extremely vigilant” about protecting “E.U. citizens from serious harm.” Musk responded with a meme that said: “TAKE A BIG STEP BACK AND LITERALLY, F*CK YOUR OWN FACE!”

Last month the European Union charged X with failing to respect its social media law by letting disinformation and illegal content run rampant. X faces fines of up to several million euros.

In the end, technical difficulties delayed the start of the X Spaces event. Instead, wrote BBC journalist Shayan Sardarizadeh, who specializes in exposing disinformation, a “deepfake livestream of the Trump-Musk interview” was playing “on a fake Tesla channel on YouTube, with 200,000 people watching.” Sardarizadeh noted that the channel was running a crypto scam, and YouTube finally suspended it. When the real X channel finally began to function, it showed Musk and Trump heaping praise on each other. But Trump was slurring his words, and when HuffPost White House journalist S.V. Dáte asked the campaign about his inability to articulate, it answered: “Must be your sh*tty hearing. Get your ears checked out.”

Trump went to Montana on Friday in support of Republican candidate Tim Sheehy, who is running to unseat popular Democrat Jon Tester, but otherwise has said he is not planning to hit the road until after the Democratic National Convention concludes next week, an odd lack of campaigning at this point in a presidential contest. He seems to be trying to regain control of the political narrative through tweets and social media. Today he said he is suing the government over the raid on Mar-a-Lago that recovered hundreds of classified national security documents, but this is almost certainly posturing to try to make him look strong: he would never be willing to undergo the discovery phase of such a lawsuit.

In the midst of Trump’s frenzy, J.D. Vance has been doing the usual appearances of a campaign, although, unable to generate rally crowds himself, he has been reduced to following Harris and Walz to theirs and trying to grab headlines there.

On Sunday he did the rounds of the morning talk shows, where on CNN he complained that Democrats are bullying him by calling the MAGA Republicans “weird.” Political journalist Brian Tyler Cohen promptly answered: “Crooked Hillary, Crazy Nancy Pelosi, Sleepy Joe, Coco Chow, Lyin Ted, Ron DeSanctimonious, Birdbrain Nikki Haley, Old Crow McConnell, Gavin Newscum, Pencil Neck Schiff, Pocahontas, Cryin Chuck, and Kamabla would all like a word.”

Republicans have made punching down a key part of their rhetoric since at least the 1980s, and Vance’s frustration that the tables have turned feels a bit as if someone is finally standing up to the schoolyard bully.

Outside of the MAGA frenzy, Harris and Walz last week held big, joyous rallies in the swing states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Nevada, contrasting their happy campaign with the MAGA Republicans’ drumbeat of carnage and revenge. A cover article from Time magazine today by Charlotte Alter described the scene of one of her rallies as a mashup of a Beyoncé concert, Taylor Swift’s Eras Tour, and “the early days of Barack Obama”: “a kind of reception a Democratic presidential candidate hasn’t gotten in years. Fans packed into overflow spaces, waving homemade signs made of glitter and glue as drumlines roared. When Harris introduced her new running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, the cheering lasted more than a minute.”

At the same time, the grave issues that are propelling the Democrats continue to gain traction. The Associated Press today reported that in the wake of the 2022 Dobbs decision, more than 100 pregnant women have been treated negligently or turned away from emergency rooms despite federal law. Two women, each of whom lost a fallopian tube to an undertreated ectopic pregnancy—one also lost 75% of one of her ovaries, and the other nearly bled to death—have asked the federal government to investigate whether the hospitals that sent them home to miscarry without medical assistance violated federal law.

On Saturday, Trump’s campaign said it had been hacked, after Politico reported that it had received communication from an account called “Robert” about internal Trump campaign documents. David Kurtz of Talking Points Memo put together a helpful timeline of the story today, explaining that on Sunday the Washington Post said it had also received some of that information and said it believed the information to be that referred to in an August 9 warning from Microsoft that Iran was engaged in an influence campaign. Today the New York Times also said it had received the information, and this afternoon the FBI said it is investigating attempted hacking against both the Trump-Vance and Harris-Walz campaigns.

CNN national security and justice reporter Zachary Cohen reported tonight that the hackers apparently were able to access the campaign by compromising the personal email account of Trump operative Roger Stone.

“Buckle up,” Chris Krebs, the former director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, wrote on X. “Someone is running the 2016 playbook, expect continued efforts to stoke fires in society and go after election systems—95% votes on paper ballots is a strong resilience measure, combined with audits. But the chaos is the point….”
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Re: US Election
Post by Daryl   » Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:41 am

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It would be just surreal entertainment, until you consider that the winner will set world policy.
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