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Re: Australia Wildfires
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:24 am

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Re: Australia Wildfires
Post by Daryl   » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:28 pm

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A useful chart, but out of date. According to it I live in a zone of warm summers and cool winters. Our summers now seem to be over 30 degrees on most days (peaking at 42), and our winters are over 20 degrees on most days.
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Re: Australia Wildfires
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:04 pm

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Daryl wrote:A useful chart, but out of date. According to it I live in a zone of warm summers and cool winters. Our summers now seem to be over 30 degrees on most days (peaking at 42), and our winters are over 20 degrees on most days.
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I do not doubt that the climate in Australia has changed in recent years. I simply argue that your current climate is not unprecedented which undermines the presumption that CO2 is to blame
In another thread I shared data on your 1,000 year climate record.
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Re: Australia Wildfires
Post by Annachie   » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:50 pm

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Day 2 of smoke haze. Today it's bad enough that my eyes started stinging a little when I first stepped outside. Not Melbourne bad, but still not good.
Every so often you can see a passing truck draging a smokey cloud behind it. (I live on a main highway)
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Re: Australia Wildfires
Post by Annachie   » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:52 am

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Re: Australia Wildfires
Post by gcomeau   » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:03 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:
Daryl wrote:A useful chart, but out of date. According to it I live in a zone of warm summers and cool winters. Our summers now seem to be over 30 degrees on most days (peaking at 42), and our winters are over 20 degrees on most days.



I do not doubt that the climate in Australia has changed in recent years. I simply argue that your current climate is not unprecedented which undermines the presumption that CO2 is to blame


No, it does not. In any way. There is literally no logical connection between your claim and the conclusion you are drawing from it. If you are trying to point at the fact that at points in geological history the earth has been this warm before... well, ummm, yeah. And it took *thousands* of years to undergo that warming. Very, very gradually. Not all at once in a few decades with no end in sight.
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Re: Australia Wildfires
Post by Annachie   » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:28 am

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There was a story in todays news about an area that had had a fire go through on Jan 1st.
It fell today and started burning. Turns out it had been smouldering on the inside for the last 29 days or so.
If it had fallen tommorow when the fire risk looks like being much higher it would likely have started a new fire.
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