PeterZ wrote:PeterZ wrote:Yup. Unlike the Republicans during the Clinton impeachment, the current Dems haven't allowed President Trump to call witnesses or have any time to prepare questions for the Dem's witnesses.gcomeau wrote:
MORE fiction.
Clinton was never allowed to call witnesses in his impeachment hearing in the House. He was allowed to call witnesses in his impeachment TRIAL in the freaking Senate. Which Trump will also be allowed to do.
How many times does the difference between an inquiry and a trial need to be explained? The only person trump would want to call, just to out them in violation of the whistleblower protections, is the whistleblower. Whose testimony became irrelevant the second their complaint was corroborated.
The Republican committee members were however allowed to request witnesses, had some of their requests granted, and it just turned out people like Morrison and Volkler gave testimony that was also against Trump because you know, EVERYONE who has gone under oath has given testimony against Trump.
Not that you care.
Also, Trump has issued blanket orders that NOBODY is allowed to testify in the most egregious act of Obstruction the presidency has ever seen, so complaining he isn't allowed to call witnesses is pathetically transparent BS.
He. Doesn't. Want. ANYONE. To. Testify.
I mean who would he call Peter? Bolton? Trump won't let him.
Pompeo? Same
Mulvaney? Same.
So WHO THE HELL are you claiming Trump would be being prevented from calling anyway?
That's right. The Clinton impeachment proceedings was based on the Ken Star Independent Counsel report that gave President Clinton the full protection of due process. They collected evidence based on federal evidentiary guidelines. The House did not need to gather any more evidence. They simply voted on impeachment based on the report.
The current House has collected testimony in ways that did not afford the President due process protections.
Name one right they violated.
Chief among them was not following the federal rules of evidence.
That governs introduction of evidence AT A TRIAL. and they are specifically NOT applied during the investigation phase, it says so right in those rules.
One more time. Senate does the trial. House is doing the investigation phase. Try to get that through your skull.
Any legal challenges he has made are considered obstruction.
He hasn't MADE any legal challenges. He just ordered total non compliance. That is not a legal challenge!