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Re: The (Next) Persian Gulf War begins.
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:11 pm

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Dilandu wrote:
gcomeau wrote:
The point of nuclear disarmament efforts is to get nuclear countries ON BOARD with these freaking treaties, not scrap them yourself because you ca


Sigh. The point of bilateral treaties was to fixate the existing situation between two superpowers, NOT letting the third one (which was not a superpower back than) obtain a crucial military advantage.

You seems to be unable to think in military therms for a bit. Chinese advantage in short- and medium-range missiles undermined both US and Russia security. In case of conflict, China would have an enormous advantage of being able to devastate US & US allies defense infrastructure all around Far East without suffering the same in retaliation.

Is that too hard to understood?


Well said.

The IRBM treaty was a reasonable step to deescalate tensions between the US and USSR but it did not restrict China, India, North Korea or other countries. Russia is particularly vulnerable to Chinese missiles that can attack Russia's strategic missiles with extremely short flight times. Russia had to respond, either by reintroducing IRBMs or perhaps by renegotiating the treaty to include other powers. The US is in a similar situation.

I do not know if Russia or the US attempted such negotiations before abrogating the treaty. There is time for such negotiations to occur.
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Re: The (Next) Persian Gulf War begins.
Post by Dilandu   » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:17 am

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gcomeau wrote:Did you not see me saying to get them on board or did you just not understand the words?


And what if they did NOT want to get onboard? What if they are either enjoy the advantages the middle-range missiles gave them (like China), or simply have nothing better (like India and Pakistan and Iran and North Korea)? What then?
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Let's shorten it to very end - the length of Fuhrer's grave.

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