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Re: Son of GOD EXISTS
Post by Imaginos1892   » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:43 pm

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Lord Skimper wrote:Son of your imaginary friend exists only in your head.

Groan. Well, since Skimper never bothers to actually READ anything before opening his big ignorant pie-hole, I have to explain AGAIN that the title is a small joke, implying that this is the 'son' of the old GOD EXISTS topic that got Duckk'd three years ago.

Most people got that. Most of the rest took the trouble to read, and saw that post. Skimper…
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Re: Son of GOD EXISTS: 1st red heifer in 2000 years
Post by smr   » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:57 pm

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Wow! A Red Heifer, how far are we from End Times? A sign or delusions of the pious people? Funny thing about faith, we can lose it or reject the idea of God but in bad times we turn to God and have faith for better times. Please read the link before commenting. Thanks in advance!

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/728262/bible-prophecy-hebrew-red-heifer-messiah-jewish-christianity-israel-jerusalem-third-temple
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Re: Son of GOD EXISTS
Post by Imaginos1892   » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:30 pm

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Wow. A red cow had a red calf. What are the odds?

Just kidding, the odds are over 99%. This is supposed to be some sort of mystical Sign? What DO those people smoke?

But wait, it gets better! They've been artificially implanting embryos into cows for years, trying to get a completely red calf. They finally succeeded, and now it's The End Of The World!

Just when you think religion can't possibly get any nuttier, they have to go and prove you wrong.
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Re: Son of GOD EXISTS
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:37 am

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I am only somewhat unimpressed by the miraculous appearance of the RED HEIFER. I used to raise Red Angus cattle.

https://www.google.com/search?q=red+ang ... 24&bih=768

The gene is a rare recessive in the Black Angus breed. The gene became rarer among pure breds because ranchers culled any cows or bulls who had red offspring or siblings from their herds. The red animals have an obvious competitive advantage in hot climates. Commercial catlemen were not so aggressive at culling. As meat producers wised up to the fact that leaner meat is healthier, the short legged, barrel bodied animals went out of style. The commercial cattlemen who had longer legged, longer bodied Angus cattle who sometimes turned out red had a head start in the transition. Selectively breeding for Red Angus was an effective tactic to develop a desinctively different breed.

Given the existance of the Red Angus breed, it is easy to understand how a mutation could occur amongst a breed that had not had the recessive gene. The incidence of such a mutation would be directly proportional to the population of the herd. An ominipotent being could predict how much time would be needed for the mutation to occur spontaneously as a basis for prophecy. That same omnipotent being could also tweak the chromosones of an embryo to create a Red Heifer at a time of its choosing.
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Re: Son of GOD EXISTS
Post by Imaginos1892   » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:13 pm

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Let me explain this to you. They found a ‘prophecy’ that a red calf would be born — sometime. They used well-known, proven principles of selective breeding to produce a red calf and are now hailing it as Fulfillment Of Prophecy!! Get ready for The End Of The World!!

Suppose you read a fantasy book centered around an oak tree in a specific location. Suppose you found the right place, planted an acorn, waited for it to grow, and then claimed the tree as proof that everything in the book was true. That would be the exact logical equivalent of what those True Believers have done.

There is no value in a prophecy when somebody reads it and then deliberately makes it happen.
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Re: Son of GOD EXISTS
Post by The E   » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:14 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:That same omnipotent being could also tweak the chromosones of an embryo to create a Red Heifer at a time of its choosing.


What is that omnipotent being's stance on puny humans using puny human science to make red cattle happen in an effort to bring forward the apocalypse?
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Re: Son of GOD EXISTS
Post by smr   » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:56 pm

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You could be correct...

Imaginos1892 wrote:Let me explain this to you. They found a ‘prophecy’ that a red calf would be born — sometime. They used well-known, proven principles of selective breeding to produce a red calf and are now hailing it as Fulfillment Of Prophecy!! Get ready for The End Of The World!!

Suppose you read a fantasy book centered around an oak tree in a specific location. Suppose you found the right place, planted an acorn, waited for it to grow, and then claimed the tree as proof that everything in the book was true. That would be the exact logical equivalent of what those True Believers have done.

There is no value in a prophecy when somebody reads it and then deliberately makes it happen.
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Re: Son of GOD EXISTS
Post by Imaginos1892   » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:46 pm

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I thought today would be an appropriate time to celebrate all the wonderful things religion has given us over the millennia.

So, let’s hear it for ignorance presented as wisdom, and knowledge condemned as heresy. Here’s to bigotry and intolerance, torture and infanticide, Holy Wars and jihads, pogroms and crusades, inquisitions and witch-burnings, shunning and excommunication. Watch the bishops preen in gold and silks while their ‘flocks’ huddle in rags, barefoot. See women put to death for the ‘sin’ of being beaten and raped.

Friday the 13th is a reminder of the Pope conspiring with the kings of Germany and France to massacre the Knights Templar and steal their money.

Remember that the churches only denounced slavery when forced to it by outside pressure.

Fanatics bomb churches, mosques, synagogues and shopping malls on a regular basis. They plow trucks into crowds, then jump out and shoot or stab as many as they can. Women’s health clinics are bombed and torched, and doctors murdered, whether they perform abortions or not.

And, of course, we must not forget a gang of wackos that crashed airplanes into buildings to murder thousands of innocent people.

If your god doesn’t want those wackos to do those things, why doesn’t he stop them? Why can’t he at least tell them they’re wrong?

By God, where would we be without religion?
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Re: Son of GOD EXISTS
Post by smr   » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:03 am

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psalm 37
37 Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.

Imaginos1892 wrote:I thought today would be an appropriate time to celebrate all the wonderful things religion has given us over the millennia.

So, let’s hear it for ignorance presented as wisdom, and knowledge condemned as heresy. Here’s to bigotry and intolerance, torture and infanticide, Holy Wars and jihads, pogroms and crusades, inquisitions and witch-burnings, shunning and excommunication. Watch the bishops preen in gold and silks while their ‘flocks’ huddle in rags, barefoot. See women put to death for the ‘sin’ of being beaten and raped.

Friday the 13th is a reminder of the Pope conspiring with the kings of Germany and France to massacre the Knights Templar and steal their money.

Remember that the churches only denounced slavery when forced to it by outside pressure.

Fanatics bomb churches, mosques, synagogues and shopping malls on a regular basis. They plow trucks into crowds, then jump out and shoot or stab as many as they can. Women’s health clinics are bombed and torched, and doctors murdered, whether they perform abortions or not.

And, of course, we must not forget a gang of wackos that crashed airplanes into buildings to murder thousands of innocent people.

If your god doesn’t want those wackos to do those things, why doesn’t he stop them? Why can’t he at least tell them they’re wrong?

By God, where would we be without religion?
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Re: Son of GOD EXISTS
Post by dscott8   » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:22 am

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smr wrote:psalm 37
37 Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.


Quoting a 2,000 year old book of folk tales is not a substitute for a reasonable argument.
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