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Suggest a health tip, please
Post by DDHv   » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:26 pm

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When I arrived home from my heart attack, the first thing done was to search the net using "heart attack prevention." One thing found was Linus Pauling's work. At a follow up, I mentioned that he had said that anyone who took 2000 mg/day of Vitamin C supplement would never have a heart attack. A very young doctor said that was wrong. I then mentioned: Pauling's first nobel prize was for revolutionizing chemistry; he spent the last 45 years of his life researching biochemistry; and a net search turned up an experiment using 500mg/day with a 40% reduction in heart attacks. I'm not qualified to argue against Pauling's work.

I've not searched again. Accidental references to the health advantages of Vitamin C and its inflammation reduction effects have been seen. Note: FWIR, there is an occasional person who is Vitamin C intolerant, and a larger number who need to stick to lower doses.

From: http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/ ... urn-deadly

Both report that hospitals are failing to disclose when medical devices injure or kill patients by spreading cancer cells throughout their body or infecting them with superbugs. Federal regulation requires hospitals and doctors to notify the FDA of these "adverse events" immediately, but the regulation is ignored. "There is limited to no reporting" at some hospitals, says an FDA official. When hospitals stay mum, future patients become the victims.
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Even an excellent regulation is useless when not enforced.

If each patient gave their hospital the name of the lawyer who would sue them if there was an adverse event and the hospital didn't report it, would bureaucrats be upset
:?: Patients of the world, enforce!
If ambulance chasers concentrated on this, it might cause hospitals to internally enforce this sensible action
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From: http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/ ... an-nothing
It's also worth pointing out that no federal entitlement program has ever been repealed or replaced, or really even weakened.

I can't think of a contrary example, off hand. Can you
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Worth Reading: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 132114.htm
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by Senior Chief   » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:00 am

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I know several people including myself. (family and friends)who have survived heart attacks... They all said basically the same thing "Stay away from individual who are totally negative". Also the only limitation and individual has are those limits they impose on themselves.

I had a heart attack in 1986 (I was 36)and I continue to be active: I swim four times a week (a mile each day) and I ride my bike. Also I stay away from people who are negative because they have no purpose except to anger people. Stay calm and chill on.
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by Annachie   » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:48 am

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An apple a day keeps the doctor away, but only if you throw it properly.

Listen to your doctor, but don't be afraid to ask him to investigate things for you.

Unlike us poor slobs who have to search the internet, your doctor has access to the actual medical journals and specialists etc.

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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by Daryl   » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:08 am

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I know of several people who had heart attacks in their forties, yet are still healthy and active decades later.
Everyone is different, I'm not a doctor, and haven't worked as a biochemist for decades, but can give some layman's advice, that shouldn't cause harm anyway.
Do carefully Googling, being cynical about much of the rubbish out there. My understanding is that heart attacks are often caused by inflammation and/or blocked arteries. A good healthy diet with limited fried food, lots of different coloured vegetables and fruit will help to reduce inflammation and cholesterol (the main cause of plaque which blocks arteries). The many coloured bit is because plants contain antioxidant flavonoids that are what supplies the varied colours. Dark ones like blueberries and plums are particularly effective, but all contribute.
I take it further using oat bran and oats for a daily porridge to scour bad cholesterol out. My level is low at 3.1 and my arteries are totally clear of plaque, despite my being overweight and over 60. There are plant steroid margarines that work, and doctors can prescribe statins.
Gentle exercise can possibly help, but get lots of advice about that as everyone is different, and I don't want you to get a head start on concluding our discussions on whether there is a god or not.
Good luck.
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by Tenshinai   » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:19 am

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"heart attack prevention."


Magnesium is likely the single most important addition you can make, in a form that is easy to absorb, like citrate.
Magnesium helps muscles work properly and the heart is essentially pure muscle, and a deficiency can even cause heart problems, so, yeah...
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by robert132   » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:45 am

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Annachie wrote:An apple a day keeps the doctor away, but only if you throw it properly.

Listen to your doctor, but don't be afraid to ask him to investigate things for you.

Unlike us poor slobs who have to search the internet, your doctor has access to the actual medical journals and specialists etc.

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10 year cancer survivor here. Excellent advice, both listen to and question your doctor, especially when he (or she) starts to go all Latin or Greek on you. ;)

The good doctors do their very best to stay informed in their area of expertise. The excellent ones participate in research or teaching in that area. My oncologist is one who participates in research, my surgeon TEACHES the procedure.

I'm still here so I guess I was either extremely lucky or very smart to listen to the recommendations that sent me to these good folks.

Me? I work in the healthcare field, kinda like "Radar" O'Reilly did.

EDIT: Daryl, you are absolutely correct. Both my surgeon and oncologist agree, every patient is different even when they suffer from the same or similar ailments.
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by DDHv   » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:42 am

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robert132 wrote:snip

The good doctors do their very best to stay informed in their area of expertise. The excellent ones participate in research or teaching in that area. My oncologist is one who participates in research, my surgeon TEACHES the procedure.

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FWIR, the FDA forces solid medical experimentation, which is good in that it clears out mistakes. However, the cost is high, which means that methods which have no chance of being patented and sold get neglected.

Possibly: anyone can use anything they want for medical reasons, but all MDs are to report results to a data base. Use the recent data mining methods to locate possibilities. Arrange some method for those who succeed to make a profit from their efforts. Can you suggest anything along these lines which might work
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Unintended consequences, or coincidence? : http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.c ... NW20_1Om-k
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by robert132   » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:03 am

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DDHv wrote:
robert132 wrote:snip

The good doctors do their very best to stay informed in their area of expertise. The excellent ones participate in research or teaching in that area. My oncologist is one who participates in research, my surgeon TEACHES the procedure.

snip


FWIR, the FDA forces solid medical experimentation, which is good in that it clears out mistakes. However, the cost is high, which means that methods which have no chance of being patented and sold get neglected.

Possibly: anyone can use anything they want for medical reasons, but all MDs are to report results to a data base. Use the recent data mining methods to locate possibilities. Arrange some method for those who succeed to make a profit from their efforts. Can you suggest anything along these lines which might work
:?:


Unfortunately Douglas, I don't have any specific recommendations.

Take care man.
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by Lord Skimper   » Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:58 am

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Daily regiment of pills:

1) 200-300mg of ginseng it is a supposed immunity booster, I call it my placebo pill but it seems to work.

2) 400-500mg of vitamin C

3) 1000 units of vitamin D3. Liquid sunshine and it helps with bone joint pain. I take this in winter to counter SAD. (lack of sunshine)

4) exercise anywhere from 10-60 minutes a time 3 times a week. With 20 second ultra hard everything you got segments with 2 minute rest (warm up and down) in between. Exercise bike or the like. Something that lets you go flat out. Even fast as you can running on the spot. Do stretching before, then do some weight lifting, repetition not heavy, 3 sets of 15 reps. 5lbs per 100lbs of body mass. round off. more with machines, do the same exercise on a day. Switch on different days. Legs, arms, shoulders & back, follow up with crunchies or pushups. More stretching.

5) Go to bed earlier wake up at normal time. 7/8/9 hours of sleep especially if you are working. Sleeping rests and heals your body, your stress and your mind.

6) If you are stressed or sore, get a massage: machine, chair or person once a week.

7) If you drink Soda Pop or fruit juice look at how much sugar is in it. Then find a glass that holds one whole can and fill it with soda water. Start adding teaspoons of sugar till you meet the amount on the lable, most places list this now, or look it up online. After you get to 7 or 8+ teaspoons of sugar you will realise that Soda Pop is just sugar water. Add a squeeze of lemon lime or orange and you will realize what you are drinking is just sugar. Either stop or make your own. Hot or cold tea is a great substitute. Coffee if you need caffeine but use a small cup (ordinary size) not a monster cup. If Pop is your thing make your own and use 2-3 spoons of sugar.

8) Stop eating sauces or gravy. Plain so you can taste the thing you are eating. Some salt is okay, or switch to potassium chloride if on a low sodium diet. Chips are fine, get plain if possible. store them in the fridge or freezer, the cold keeps you from binging. You can make your own, boiled salted new potatoes are great, even cold. If you want to salt them lightly, salt the water.

9) Eat snacks you hate and you will snack less. Eat food not for taste but for nutrients. Occasional food you enjoy when going out. Don't eat diet food when going out. If you are dieting eat between set hours. No snacks unless medically necessary. I find eating only between 2-8 pm works best, if dieting. If not dieting, eat backwards big meal of the day first. Steak pot roast salmon etc.... a salad for lunch, no snacking because your not hungry. Glass of water 4 times a day. Have cereal for dinner, one bowl with milk or an egg and bacon, pancakes etc... no desert you had pancakes you don't need desert. Pre cook the morning meal ahead of time and freeze it, do this after you eat and are full. In the morning you have a full meal waiting for you. Eating gravy in the morning is okay. Nuke it if you are in a hurry. When people ask what you had for breakfast and you tell them you had steak, mash potatoes with cheese and butter, peas carrots and green beans, with an au jus dipping sauce, they will stare at you, then their shoes glancing at their bag of chips. You won't be tempted.
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by Lord Skimper   » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:05 am

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A pot roast the following day, soaking in gravy and sauce all night in the fridge or slow cooker, is awesome in the morning. Slow cooker is great as it is hot when you wake up.

Eat backwards when you are working.
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