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Suggest a health tip, please
Post by DDHv   » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:26 pm

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When I arrived home from my heart attack, the first thing done was to search the net using "heart attack prevention." One thing found was Linus Pauling's work. At a follow up, I mentioned that he had said that anyone who took 2000 mg/day of Vitamin C supplement would never have a heart attack. A very young doctor said that was wrong. I then mentioned: Pauling's first nobel prize was for revolutionizing chemistry; he spent the last 45 years of his life researching biochemistry; and a net search turned up an experiment using 500mg/day with a 40% reduction in heart attacks. I'm not qualified to argue against Pauling's work.

I've not searched again. Accidental references to the health advantages of Vitamin C and its inflammation reduction effects have been seen. Note: FWIR, there is an occasional person who is Vitamin C intolerant, and a larger number who need to stick to lower doses.

From: http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/ ... urn-deadly

Both report that hospitals are failing to disclose when medical devices injure or kill patients by spreading cancer cells throughout their body or infecting them with superbugs. Federal regulation requires hospitals and doctors to notify the FDA of these "adverse events" immediately, but the regulation is ignored. "There is limited to no reporting" at some hospitals, says an FDA official. When hospitals stay mum, future patients become the victims.
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Even an excellent regulation is useless when not enforced.

If each patient gave their hospital the name of the lawyer who would sue them if there was an adverse event and the hospital didn't report it, would bureaucrats be upset
:?: Patients of the world, enforce!
If ambulance chasers concentrated on this, it might cause hospitals to internally enforce this sensible action
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From: http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/ ... an-nothing
It's also worth pointing out that no federal entitlement program has ever been repealed or replaced, or really even weakened.

I can't think of a contrary example, off hand. Can you
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Worth Reading: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 132114.htm
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by Senior Chief   » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:00 am

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I know several people including myself. (family and friends)who have survived heart attacks... They all said basically the same thing "Stay away from individual who are totally negative". Also the only limitation and individual has are those limits they impose on themselves.

I had a heart attack in 1986 (I was 36)and I continue to be active: I swim four times a week (a mile each day) and I ride my bike. Also I stay away from people who are negative because they have no purpose except to anger people. Stay calm and chill on.
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by Annachie   » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:48 am

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An apple a day keeps the doctor away, but only if you throw it properly.

Listen to your doctor, but don't be afraid to ask him to investigate things for you.

Unlike us poor slobs who have to search the internet, your doctor has access to the actual medical journals and specialists etc.

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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by Daryl   » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:08 am

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I know of several people who had heart attacks in their forties, yet are still healthy and active decades later.
Everyone is different, I'm not a doctor, and haven't worked as a biochemist for decades, but can give some layman's advice, that shouldn't cause harm anyway.
Do carefully Googling, being cynical about much of the rubbish out there. My understanding is that heart attacks are often caused by inflammation and/or blocked arteries. A good healthy diet with limited fried food, lots of different coloured vegetables and fruit will help to reduce inflammation and cholesterol (the main cause of plaque which blocks arteries). The many coloured bit is because plants contain antioxidant flavonoids that are what supplies the varied colours. Dark ones like blueberries and plums are particularly effective, but all contribute.
I take it further using oat bran and oats for a daily porridge to scour bad cholesterol out. My level is low at 3.1 and my arteries are totally clear of plaque, despite my being overweight and over 60. There are plant steroid margarines that work, and doctors can prescribe statins.
Gentle exercise can possibly help, but get lots of advice about that as everyone is different, and I don't want you to get a head start on concluding our discussions on whether there is a god or not.
Good luck.
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by Tenshinai   » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:19 am

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"heart attack prevention."


Magnesium is likely the single most important addition you can make, in a form that is easy to absorb, like citrate.
Magnesium helps muscles work properly and the heart is essentially pure muscle, and a deficiency can even cause heart problems, so, yeah...
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by robert132   » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:45 am

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Annachie wrote:An apple a day keeps the doctor away, but only if you throw it properly.

Listen to your doctor, but don't be afraid to ask him to investigate things for you.

Unlike us poor slobs who have to search the internet, your doctor has access to the actual medical journals and specialists etc.

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10 year cancer survivor here. Excellent advice, both listen to and question your doctor, especially when he (or she) starts to go all Latin or Greek on you. ;)

The good doctors do their very best to stay informed in their area of expertise. The excellent ones participate in research or teaching in that area. My oncologist is one who participates in research, my surgeon TEACHES the procedure.

I'm still here so I guess I was either extremely lucky or very smart to listen to the recommendations that sent me to these good folks.

Me? I work in the healthcare field, kinda like "Radar" O'Reilly did.

EDIT: Daryl, you are absolutely correct. Both my surgeon and oncologist agree, every patient is different even when they suffer from the same or similar ailments.
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by DDHv   » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:42 am

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robert132 wrote:snip

The good doctors do their very best to stay informed in their area of expertise. The excellent ones participate in research or teaching in that area. My oncologist is one who participates in research, my surgeon TEACHES the procedure.

snip


FWIR, the FDA forces solid medical experimentation, which is good in that it clears out mistakes. However, the cost is high, which means that methods which have no chance of being patented and sold get neglected.

Possibly: anyone can use anything they want for medical reasons, but all MDs are to report results to a data base. Use the recent data mining methods to locate possibilities. Arrange some method for those who succeed to make a profit from their efforts. Can you suggest anything along these lines which might work
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Unintended consequences, or coincidence? : http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.c ... NW20_1Om-k
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Re: Suggest a health tip, please
Post by robert132   » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:03 am

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DDHv wrote:
robert132 wrote:snip

The good doctors do their very best to stay informed in their area of expertise. The excellent ones participate in research or teaching in that area. My oncologist is one who participates in research, my surgeon TEACHES the procedure.

snip


FWIR, the FDA forces solid medical experimentation, which is good in that it clears out mistakes. However, the cost is high, which means that methods which have no chance of being patented and sold get neglected.

Possibly: anyone can use anything they want for medical reasons, but all MDs are to report results to a data base. Use the recent data mining methods to locate possibilities. Arrange some method for those who succeed to make a profit from their efforts. Can you suggest anything along these lines which might work
:?:


Unfortunately Douglas, I don't have any specific recommendations.

Take care man.
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