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My rant/fantasy regarding the A-10(A&B) Warthog.

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Re: My rant/fantasy regarding the A-10(A&B) Warthog.
Post by Tenshinai   » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:20 am

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Daryl wrote:I was involved in the development of the Tiger into Australian service, where we integrated avionics and hardware. Can't say much, except if one was looking for me I'd like a shovel and time to get deep, as it was exceptional.


Yeah, i saw some rough info on it when they tried selling it to Sweden, neat.
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Re: My rant/fantasy regarding the A-10(A&B) Warthog.
Post by Castenea   » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:45 pm

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Tenshinai wrote:On the one hand, that gun would be pretty nasty against a ship, but OTOH, it´s not really a very effective gun, it´s made to spray a target area, using excessive amounts of ammo compared to what it achieves.

So, you could probably replace it with a lighter, slower firing but much more accurate gun using the same ammo, or potentially give it something like a 40mm gun with even slower ROF but seriously strong punch, and STILL save enough weight to allow for a hook and not loose any performance.

Still, attacking ships with guns today is generally a terrible idea, because the ship nearly always has a gun that can reach out further, the ship is a better gun platform, it has all the sensors it needs to do this with ease, and the A-10 is a SLOW flier.
Any ship beyond "lightly defended" is probably more or less suicidal to attack at gunrange.

Tom Clancy has A-10s sink a ship in Red Storm Rising, however they used something a lot more realistic than their gun, Air dropped Torps. If you are in Gun range with any airplane of a defended ship you are too close, that is what tin fish and air launched cruise missiles are for.
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Re: My rant/fantasy regarding the A-10(A&B) Warthog.
Post by Tenshinai   » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:55 am

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Castenea wrote:Tom Clancy has A-10s sink a ship in Red Storm Rising, however they used something a lot more realistic than their gun, Air dropped Torps. If you are in Gun range with any airplane of a defended ship you are too close, that is what tin fish and air launched cruise missiles are for.


Tom Clancy also had the F-19 be real. Along with a LOT of other absolute crap, some of which was essentially just a cheap propaganda outlet.

Sorry but TC, once upon a time i liked his books...

Then when i got more knowledgeable myself i started noting just how unconcerned about reality he was with oh so many things, especially technology, and how the good guys always have just what they need.
It´s not that he takes liberties with reality that is a problem, it´s that he does it while claiming it to be reality or close, ie "i´m not a scifi writer" as he expressed it himself. Except that IS what he is.

THEN, i realised how nearly all his books are repeats of the same story, how the good guys always catch the lucky break at just the right time, how those same lucky breaks NEVER happen for the bad guys(except to cause their demise, and well, that really kills the "lucky" part anyway), and then of course there´s all the sad and pathetic overuse of klichés.

I still have a dozen of his books in my shelves, but they´re mostly gathering dust behind James Clavell´s books for many years now.
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