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How will mankind move into space or do a epic fail and nose
Post by viciokie   » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:34 pm

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This topic here is for pure speculation and is to discuss by what method mankind will move into space near and extra solar and when or will we do a roman empire and do a epic fail and nosedive?
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Re: How will mankind move into space or do a epic fail and n
Post by Ashreal   » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:44 pm

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The chinese will get to mars first, find a long dormant disease, bring it back with them and wipe out the earths population.
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Re: How will mankind move into space or do a epic fail and n
Post by kalenath   » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:21 am

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I see one of two things happening actually.

1)
Humans will try to leave the space around Earth, run into some kind of alein monolith letf by some ancient race, activate it and get immidiately bombarded by so many ads for space cialis and viagra that our heads explode as a race. You KNOW that Arthur C. Clark intended that big black thing to be a massive telepathic telemarketer, right?

or...

2)
We run smack dab into an interstellar pothole, break the suspension on our spacecraft and have to be rescued by whatever civilizations are out there. At which point, our entire species gets indentured for multiple lifetimes to pay back the bill.
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Re: How will mankind move into space or do a epic fail and n
Post by Thirdbase   » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:45 am

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kalenath wrote:I see one of two things happening actually.

1)
Humans will try to leave the space around Earth, run into some kind of alein monolith letf by some ancient race, activate it and get immidiately bombarded by so many ads for space cialis and viagra that our heads explode as a race. You KNOW that Arthur C. Clark intended that big black thing to be a massive telepathic telemarketer, right?

or...

2)
We run smack dab into an interstellar pothole, break the suspension on our spacecraft and have to be rescued by whatever civilizations are out there. At which point, our entire species gets indentured for multiple lifetimes to pay back the bill.


Darn those holiday tow truck fees.

Oddly in space colonization I am a pessimist. I don't see mankind spreading beyond the solar system, unless some sort of cryogenic storage system is developed.

I do see space station colonization of the asteroid field, and earth orbit. I am a bit wary on planetary/moon colonies.
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Re: How will mankind move into space or do a epic fail and n
Post by viciokie   » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:59 am

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Thirdbase wrote:

Darn those holiday tow truck fees.

Oddly in space colonization I am a pessimist. I don't see mankind spreading beyond the solar system, unless some sort of cryogenic storage system is developed.

I do see space station colonization of the asteroid field, and earth orbit. I am a bit wary on planetary/moon colonies.


Yes but once we get to that point i think we will have to develope the tech for interstellar travel at some point in time.
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Re: How will mankind move into space or do a epic fail and n
Post by Thirdbase   » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:32 am

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viciokie wrote:
Thirdbase wrote:

Darn those holiday tow truck fees.

Oddly in space colonization I am a pessimist. I don't see mankind spreading beyond the solar system, unless some sort of cryogenic storage system is developed.

I do see space station colonization of the asteroid field, and earth orbit. I am a bit wary on planetary/moon colonies.


Yes but once we get to that point i think we will have to develope the tech for interstellar travel at some point in time.


But I don't believe that FTL is possible, and I also don't think that a generation ship would work.
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Thirdbase wrote:I think that was the next novel.



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Re: How will mankind move into space or do a epic fail and n
Post by BrightSoul   » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:06 am

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Personally I operate under the assumption that we will need to be able to operate within our own solar system first. We have no idea what we could learn with a concerted effort to expand our efforts at manned exploration.

Once we get a grasp on that we'll have a better idea of what is possible, right now all we really have is our beloved SciFi.
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Re: How will mankind move into space or do a epic fail and n
Post by Daryl   » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:15 am

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We have a window available of fossil fuel energy that we can use to bootstrap ourselves into the next phase, using orbiting solar energy stations, before we develop fusion and whatever after that which finally brings an Honorverse type universe to us.
Unfortunately I expect that international rivalries and individual selfishness will eventually lead to expenditure of the surplus energy, leaving mankind to slowly drown in the filth of its own gravity well. Like a bacterial solution that can't escape its test tube.
Of course I could be wrong, hopefully.
Don't forget that only a few generations ago no one had an inkling of electricity let alone nuclear power, so just possibly someone is working on something that we don't even have a name for as yet.
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Re: How will mankind move into space or do a epic fail and n
Post by Emo Otaku   » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:25 am

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Most Nations Can't even agree on a policy to keep LEO usable

Not to mention Anti-satellite tests which make the problem an order of magnitude worse.

I think the next stage of human exploration is in the hands of private investors, once we have the first private spacestations or moon-base, that is when space exploration will begin in ernest.

If we can begin heavy industry in space (not an easy task but probably not beyond our current technology level) we have two major advantages.

1. We won't have to move heavy machinery out of the Gravity Well.

2. Once heavy industry is in space we can start clearing up the most polluting earth based industry's

If we can get one space based factory up and running, we can use that facillity to build anothher after we have a few up and running we can start production on other things.

Probably low volume high price Items to start with, but within a few years we're probably looking at consumer electronics and other items.

Of course any space based manufactturingwill need a space based workforce. and its probably a lot easier to supply a workforce from a permament moonbase than it would be from earth.
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Re: How will mankind move into space or do a epic fail and n
Post by dscott8   » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:04 am

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Best scenario I've read for this is Michael Flynn's Firestar series, four novels about a private space program that winds up going public. They start with low-cost suborbital flights (Recife to St. Petersburg in an hour), then grab off space shuttle external tanks (normally dropped in the ocean) to build orbital habitats for industry. It goes on from there, with lots of politics and personal issues between the characters. Very good read.
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