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Re: Hollywood Stupid
Post by pappilon   » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:56 pm

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pmlinde wrote:Speaking of Hollywood stupid, I have been off line for a long time, and am curious as to what ever happened with the HH movie or TV show that was talked about



That "discussion" lasted all of about 3 months. Then it went unceremoniously dark. So noting will come of it. Especially now that the cable networks don't particularly wish to purchase other people's creations. I mean why would SY-FY keep Killjoys and cancel Dark Matter? But again there's The Magicians and The Expanse. So maybe some future studio will try again.
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Re: Hollywood Stupid
Post by vovchara   » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:26 am

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Ugh.. killjoys. I stopped watching when supposedly former special forces guy went outside his ship with only one magazin in the rifle, which he promptly dropped when it run out of ammo...
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Post by Lord Skimper   » Fri May 11, 2018 2:02 pm

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Seat belts or lack there of. Prison cells with wide open force fields which always fail when the power goes out. Artificial grav plating. Can't shoot a gun in space.
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Re: Hollywood Stupid
Post by Imaginos1892   » Sat May 12, 2018 12:16 pm

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Most well-made science fiction shows have restraining harnesses modeled after those used in fighter jets, or race cars. Only a few shows are still Stupid that way.

Grav plates can be justified with the proper combination of bolonium and handwavium. We don’t know artificial gravity is impossible, we just don’t know how to do it yet.

There wouldn’t be any technical problems with shooting guns in outer space. There would be practical problems with recoil sending you spinning off backwards, but training can help with that.

Long-term exposure to vacuum might degrade the chemicals used in the primers.
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Re: Hollywood Stupid
Post by pappilon   » Sun May 13, 2018 7:16 pm

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pappilon wrote:
pmlinde wrote:Speaking of Hollywood stupid, I have been off line for a long time, and am curious as to what ever happened with the HH movie or TV show that was talked about



That "discussion" lasted all of about 3 months. Then it went unceremoniously dark. So nothing will come of it. Especially now that the cable networks don't particularly wish to purchase other people's creations. I mean why would SY-FY keep Killjoys and cancel Dark Matter? But again there's The Magicians and The Expanse. So maybe some future studio will try again.


And Season 3 will be the final one for The Expanse. Which like Dark Matter is as tragic as Firefly.
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Re: Hollywood Stupid
Post by Joat42   » Tue May 15, 2018 3:16 am

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pmlinde wrote:Speaking of Hollywood stupid, I have been off line for a long time, and am curious as to what ever happened with the HH movie or TV show that was talked about
pappilon wrote:That "discussion" lasted all of about 3 months. Then it went unceremoniously dark. So nothing will come of it. Especially now that the cable networks don't particularly wish to purchase other people's creations. I mean why would SY-FY keep Killjoys and cancel Dark Matter? But again there's The Magicians and The Expanse. So maybe some future studio will try again.

pappilon wrote:And Season 3 will be the final one for The Expanse. Which like Dark Matter is as tragic as Firefly.

If you have read the books it makes sense from the clueless viewers standpoint. Most of the dangling threads are resolved and they still leave the door open for more seasons.

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Re: Hollywood Stupid
Post by pappilon   » Tue May 15, 2018 5:42 pm

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Joat42 wrote:If you have read the books it makes sense from the clueless viewers standpoint. Most of the dangling threads are resolved and they still leave the door open for more seasons.



I did read the books, reread them when the series started. Surprisingly the screenplay very closely follows the books. I just hate investing the time to get involved with a series only to have it cancelled seemingly at the whim of studio suits. Killing the interesting ones (Dark Matter) while keeping the shlock (Killjoys).
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Re: Hollywood Stupid
Post by Joat42   » Wed May 16, 2018 2:36 am

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pappilon wrote:
Joat42 wrote:If you have read the books it makes sense from the clueless viewers standpoint. Most of the dangling threads are resolved and they still leave the door open for more seasons.

I did read the books, reread them when the series started. Surprisingly the screenplay very closely follows the books. I just hate investing the time to get involved with a series only to have it cancelled seemingly at the whim of studio suits. Killing the interesting ones (Dark Matter) while keeping the shlock (Killjoys).

Well, one of the reasons is the contract between Alcon Entertainment and SyFy. SyFy only have live linear first run rights for the US and thus misses out on all the streaming. Even the ratings are based on that live first run.

So if the series are incredible popular on streaming platforms it's not really reflected in the ratings.

I don't think we have seen the last of the series, Alcon Entertainment seems to be shopping around for another partner and I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix picks it up.

On a related note, it seems that "smart" series tend to under-perform in the US so I'm not that surprised to see the "dumb" ones getting preferential treatment from the the studios. Which neatly brings us back to Hollywood Stupid.. :)

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Re: Hollywood Stupid
Post by Imaginos1892   » Wed May 16, 2018 10:47 am

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Joat42 wrote:On a related note, it seems that "smart" series tend to under-perform in the US so I'm not that surprised to see the "dumb" ones getting preferential treatment from the the studios.

Advertisers want to fish in the shallow end of the gene pool. It's only once in a while something like Babylon 5, Stargate, Firefly or Bones slips through. Even rarer that they last more than a year or two. Or, the quality goes to hell.
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