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Re: Love The Stranger As Thyself
Post by Imaginos1892   » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:43 pm

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tooldtocare wrote:
Imaginos1892 wrote:Yeah…this topic should probably be banished to Politics.

banished to Politics? :lol:

I once proposed renaming Politics to Religion and Politics: All hope abandon, ye who enter here.
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Re: Love The Stranger As Thyself
Post by tooldtocare   » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:00 pm

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Ok, off the bible stuff for the moment and visit a real time line

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT REAL TERRORISM IS THEN READ THE FOLLOWING. THE TERRORISTS WERE NOT MUSLIMS THEY WERE ZIONIST JEWS AND THEY WERE THE "FIRST TERRORIST" COINING THE PHRASE

Google Irgun, Haganah and Stern gangs and you will get 144,000 hits

Zionists threw bombs into buses and cafes and sent bombs to British officials

***November 25, 1940. S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in Haifa harbor, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants. This was done by Zionists who wanted to keep the ship in port but used to much explosives and killed their own by mistake. Note: The Zionists who blew up the ship then blamed a local village for the act and based on this false claim they murdered everyone in that village and then leveled it with bulldozers.

***November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

***July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. King David hotel was commandeered by the British army who set up their Head Quarters in the hotel. That HQ had a full guard detail of WWII veterans, communications center and a full complement of staff officers.

***October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

***September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

***December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

***December 13,1947. Zionist terrorists killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab café; in the Arab village of Al bbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

***December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

***December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

***December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

***December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

***April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were captured and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

***January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

***June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

***December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

***January 1, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33 wounded.

***January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

***January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.

***January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

***January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

***February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.

***March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.

***March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

***March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

***April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

***April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.
April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

***May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

***May 11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

***April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

***1947 -- 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land. After their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" totally obliterated (usually by bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475. Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.

****** The carnage was extensive and this period marked the first acts of terrorism. Now was this before the Zionists started this needless war or after--?

BTW: The Haganah gang later became the Israeli Defense Force (IDF)
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Re: Love The Stranger As Thyself
Post by tooldtocare   » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:04 pm

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Last post on this subject:

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations -- Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building -- celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.

The Israelis at Liberty State Park were dressed in Arab-style clothing when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.
http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r
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Re: Love The Stranger As Thyself
Post by Michael Everett   » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:49 am

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tooldtocare wrote:IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT REAL TERRORISM IS
...then check out The Troubles.

Seriously. It's why we Brits ain't freaking out over the pseudo-muslims and reacted so calmly to those that tooldtocare listed in his post. We've been there, done that and got the "Keep Calm and Carry On" T-shirt.

And believe it or not, the IRA did once use a suicide bomber. As he was forced into it by having his family threatened and that fact leaked out, the IRA were hammered for it and never tried it again.

Of course, given the recent train bomb (22 injuries, no fatalities), it would seem that the psuedo-muslim terrorists have lost almost all of their competent members to suicide attacks and drone strikes, meaning that we've ended up with idiots who make those in Four Lions seem dangerously capable by comparison.
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Re: Love The Stranger As Thyself
Post by The E   » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 am

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tooldtocare wrote:Ok, off the bible stuff for the moment and visit a real time line

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT REAL TERRORISM IS THEN READ THE FOLLOWING. THE TERRORISTS WERE NOT MUSLIMS THEY WERE ZIONIST JEWS AND THEY WERE THE "FIRST TERRORIST" COINING THE PHRASE

Google Irgun, Haganah and Stern gangs and you will get 144,000 hits

Zionists threw bombs into buses and cafes and sent bombs to British officials


And now the other shoe drops. Not only are you doing the least interesting thing one could do with the bible text, you're using it as a vehicle for some anti-zionist (anti-semitic?) diatribe.

This is definitely Politics territory now.

(Also, "First acts of terrorism"? You mean, like, globally? Cos, you know, you'd be hilariously wrong)
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Re: Love The Stranger As Thyself
Post by Imaginos1892   » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:26 pm

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Yeaaaah, this thread deserves to get Ducck'd. In fact, it should probably be deleted.
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Re: Love The Stranger As Thyself
Post by pappilon   » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:33 pm

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Imaginos1892 wrote:Yeaaaah, this thread deserves to get Ducck'd. In fact, it should probably be deleted.


1) Never mix religious topics in the Politics section. No religion there.
2) Religion discussions are supposed o be off limits in free Range as well.
3) have no philosophical prob with general religion discussions of compare/contrast & basic theology, but this is too far out there for my *I survived 12 years of Catholic school* brain.
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Re: Love The Stranger As Thyself
Post by tooldtocare   » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:34 pm

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Pappilon;

1)Never mix religious topics in the Politics section. No religion there.

The USA constitution specifies separation of Church & State (it’s the law)

2) Religion discussions are supposed o be off limits in free Range as well.

Think not; free range = free speech

3) have no philosophical prob with general religion discussions of compare/contrast & basic theology, but this is too far out there for my *I survived 12 years of Catholic school* brain.

Your’ doing great, just say what is on your mind.
I hear you
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Re: Love The Stranger As Thyself
Post by tooldtocare   » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:47 pm

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WHY THEY WERE CHOSEN

(Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.[/i]

(Deu 7:7 KJV) [i]The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people;for ye were the fewest of all people

[/i]
(Deu 7:8 KJV) But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

(Deu 7:9 KJV) Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

((Deu 7:11 KJV) Thou shalt therefore keep the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which I command thee this day, to do them.

(Deu 7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:

(Deu 7:13 KJV) And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.

God chose them to show us the way. By example, by following His Commandments and expressing the love for the stranger as we all should love our neighbors. It is spelled out in scripture, all you have to do is read it and do it and then it will be done.

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God

They were chosen to show us the way, to show us how to treat the stranger, how to be compassionate and loving to your neighbor and by doing so peace would envelope the world.
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Re: Love The Stranger As Thyself
Post by tooldtocare   » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:57 pm

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The World Is not Unfolding As it should

Sunday, Jul 20th 2014
Palestinian child death toll rises to 70 while 50,000 are now homeless as a result of Israel's air and ground offensive
Read more

Exodus-40-000-civilians-forced-leave-homes-300-dead-Israel-vows-significantly-widen-ground-offensive-Gaza

341 Palestinians, 5 Israelis dead entering 13th day of fighting
Tribune wire reports
9:48 p.m. CDT, July 19, 2014
GAZA/JERUSALEM—
341 Palestinians, 5 Israelis dead entering 13th day of fighting

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... 7517.story

15,000 turn out for pro-Gaza rally in London (PHOTOS)
http://rt.com/uk/174188-gaza-israel-london-palestine/

The Guardian
Israel kills scores in Gaza City
suburb in deadliest assault of offensive so far
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israeli-attack-suburb-gaza-city-palestinians-shujaiiya
crisis-guide-israeli-palestinian-conflict
Israel starts Gaza ground offensive
18 July 2014

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28359582
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