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Re: The Soul of Haven
Post by cthia   » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:07 am

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Eagleeye wrote:
cthia wrote:
Thanks for dotting the 'i' and crossing the 't.'

Though, did the RMN have enough Apollo missiles to destroy Haven's capital, w/o simultaneously uncovering the Home system's blanket of Apollo coverage? Wouldn't it have had to leave itself bare? Like, well, it did?

Which could have resulted in some sort of a stalemate? Of sorts? Though for the life of me, I cannot figure out how that unlikely but totally possible scenario would have been resolved.


At least they thought so, and because there was no other enemy to be seen at the horizon, they were probably right in this assumption. After all, the situation with the SL at the time Honor was sent to New Paris was not yet at a level you would starting to loose sleep about and Oyster Bay hadn't happened, too - so, the manticoran military industry was at its top level and still rising. They could rightly assume that any missiles Honor had to use (if it came to that contingency) could not only be replaced but additional ones could be added to them, too. So, no stalemate in sight.

That Oyster Bay turned that assumption upside down (and proved once more, that "if you assume something you make an ass out of u and me") is another matter entirely ...


Recall the old excuse that you give someone you're dating when you want to let them down easily? "It's not you, it's me."

Well, it really is me this time. LOL

I keep forgetting about the era before the extinction of the mighty dinosaurs. The space stations. So I didn't make it clear yet again. I was continuing the thought a click or two upstream, comprising the same window just prior to Eloise's visit. I'm assuming Honor would have handled the rekindling of Operation Buttercup as well, since Eighth Fleet was the only fleet armed with Apollo.

But, even in considering the time before Oyster Bay, even then there is still a chance of a stalemate, because a bottleneck had cropped up in the production of Apollo. Eighth Fleet was the only fleet armed until.

Honor could have waited in that case, but at the risk of losing both - the window of opportunity and the initiative, to Beatrice. And if both are sent at the same time and passed each other like thieves in the night. Same scenario. No?

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: The Soul of Haven
Post by n7axw   » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:31 pm

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At the time of MOH, Elizabeth had come off her funk over the Webster assassination and the attempt on Berry and Ruth, partly because of a verbal spanking she got from Honor. By the time Honor and 8th Fleet left for Haven, everone in Manticore was more or less hoping that Honor's mission would bring the war to an end peacefully.

The situation with the League in Talbot did provide incentive to end the war with Haven since Manticore did not want to still be at war with Haven should the situation with the League turn hot.

Don

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Re: The Soul of Haven
Post by ldwechsler   » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:28 am

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n7axw wrote:At the time of MOH, Elizabeth had come off her funk over the Webster assassination and the attempt on Berry and Ruth, partly because of a verbal spanking she got from Honor. By the time Honor and 8th Fleet left for Haven, everone in Manticore was more or less hoping that Honor's mission would bring the war to an end peacefully.

The situation with the League in Talbot did provide incentive to end the war with Haven since Manticore did not want to still be at war with Haven should the situation with the League turn hot.

Don

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Just goes to show how the unexpected can suddenly change things. When Zilwicki and Cachat came back, Prichart used the new infor to change the whole balance of power. In that one act she became a "great leader." Instead of losing a war with huge casualties she became a full partner in a victorious coalition.
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