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Re: BEOWULF - THE KARMA SUITSYA
Post by cthia   » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:55 pm

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kar·ma
[ˈkärmə]

NOUN

⦁informal
1. destiny or fate, following as effect from cause.



Beowulf caused her karma to bite her, for her cause was worth it.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: BEOWULF - THE KARMA SUITSYA
Post by cthia   » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:47 pm

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Being situated on that junction, could Beowulf's new opportunities turn her into a super power? Could Beowulf eventually grow a navy the size of Grayson's?


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Talk about human nature...

Beowulf's predicament reminds me of sawing your own arm off to survive.

Could you do that?


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Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: BEOWULF - THE KARMA SUITSYA
Post by cthia   » Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:06 pm

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cthia wrote:Being situated on that junction, could Beowulf's new opportunities turn her into a super power? Could Beowulf eventually grow a navy the size of Grayson?


Karma could suit her in a positive fashion.

This would represent the positive yin of a negative yang.

The MAlign could very well end up creating a monster. You never know what you're going to get when you meddle with the human element. Didn't your mother tell you "Life is a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get?" The Havenites had to learn that after meddling with the throne.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: BEOWULF - THE KARMA SUITSYA
Post by cthia   » Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:22 pm

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Beowulf caused her karma to bite her...

because her cause was worth it.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: BEOWULF - THE KARMA SUITSYA
Post by Vince   » Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:28 am

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cthia wrote:Beowulf caused her karma to bite her...

because her cause was worth it.


A cause worth our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor wrote:When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present Mandarins of the Solarian League is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over the star systems of the Milky Way. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid galaxy.

<Insert the long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object that evinces a design to reduce the reduce the star systems of the Milky Way under absolute Despotism.>

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A self-selected, unelected group of bureaucrats, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, are unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our League brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the people of Beowulf, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of Beowulf, solemnly publish and declare, That Beowulf is, and of Right ought to be a Free and Independent star system, that Beowulf is Absolved from all Allegiance to the Solarian League, and that all political connection between Beowulf and the Solarian League, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as a Free and Independent Star System, Beowulf has full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent Star Systems may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
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Re: BEOWULF - THE KARMA SUITSYA
Post by pappilon   » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:09 am

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Vince wrote:
cthia wrote:Beowulf caused her karma to bite her...

because her cause was worth it.



Karma is the belief that a person's actions in life will determine their fate in the next life. Sith the belief in Karma, Hinduism holds firmly to Dharma: the moral force that orders the universe.

Namaste
The god in in me bows to the god in you.

Beowulf did what Beowulf did because her Moral code (Dharma) left her no other choice. Karma happens.
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Re: BEOWULF - THE KARMA SUITSYA
Post by pappilon   » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:13 am

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Vince wrote:
A cause worth our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor wrote:When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present Mandarins of the Solarian League is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over the star systems of the Milky Way. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid galaxy.

<Insert the long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object that evinces a design to reduce the reduce the star systems of the Milky Way under absolute Despotism.>

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A self-selected, unelected group of bureaucrats, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, are unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our League brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the people of Beowulf, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of Beowulf, solemnly publish and declare, That Beowulf is, and of Right ought to be a Free and Independent star system, that Beowulf is Absolved from all Allegiance to the Solarian League, and that all political connection between Beowulf and the Solarian League, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as a Free and Independent Star System, Beowulf has full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent Star Systems may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.


with apologies to Thomas Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence, I presume?
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Re: BEOWULF - THE KARMA SUITSYA
Post by cthia   » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:38 am

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pappilon wrote:with apologies to Thomas Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence, I presume?


Or with respect to, Thomas Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence. At any rate, mahvelous. Simply mahvelous. And timely. Endless toasts, Vince.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: BEOWULF - THE KARMA SUITSYA
Post by cthia   » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:54 am

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Vince wrote:
cthia wrote:Beowulf caused her karma to bite her...

because her cause was worth it.
pappilon wrote:Karma is the belief that a person's actions in life will determine their fate in the next life. Sith the belief in Karma, Hinduism holds firmly to Dharma: the moral force that orders the universe.

Namaste
The god in in me bows to the god in you.

Beowulf did what Beowulf did because her Moral code (Dharma) left her no other choice. Karma happens.


Absolutely pappilon. That is the formal definition. You've done a fine job explaining and applying it. Kudos.


I chose to display the informal definition, since it more readily explains the "wicked" (20M dead) which Beowulf's way comes from a ripple in rhyme, or a pimple "in" reason. As in the title of the thread.

Yin & Yang.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: BEOWULF - THE KARMA SUITSYA
Post by cthia   » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:38 am

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pappilon wrote:
cthia wrote:Beowulf caused her karma to bite her...

because her cause was worth it.



Karma is the belief that a person's actions in life will determine their fate in the next life. Sith the belief in Karma, Hinduism holds firmly to Dharma: the moral force that orders the universe.

Namaste
The god in in me bows to the god in you.

Beowulf did what Beowulf did because her Moral code (Dharma) left her no other choice. Karma happens.


The next life is merely the next moment. That moment may be long enough to encompass your next life. Or, barely long enough to encompass your next moment.

Of course, the informal notion implies and warns, that one can "unnecessarily" precipitate negative karma.


Hence Beowulf => 20M dead. Precipitously.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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