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Current net worth of Grayson Skydomes?
Post by Hikeh   » Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:06 pm

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Hey guys, I would like to know the current value of Grayson skydomes ( was it affected by the yawata strike)? Also, what's the current net worth of Honor Alexander-Harrignton?
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Re: Current net worth of Grayson Skydomes?
Post by ldwechsler   » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:22 pm

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Hikeh wrote:Hey guys, I would like to know the current value of Grayson skydomes ( was it affected by the yawata strike)? Also, what's the current net worth of Honor Alexander-Harrignton?



We have far too little information. The skydomes corp might be separate from shipbuilding operations. If that is the case it might not have been directly affected.

But we don't know the structure of the corporation or, frankly, of most of HH's finances. She was worth billions many years ago, a lot of it from the sale of Haven ships after SVW.

But there's no way we could judge now. Since that first time, she's actually built a steading on Grayson and has been given more land by Queen Elizabeth, etc.

And of course we have her marriage.

So let's just say she is really rich.
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Re: Current net worth of Grayson Skydomes?
Post by Fireflair   » Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:12 am

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To answer your second question first, we know from text ev that Sky Domes was impacted by the strike. Black Rock was decimated, along with the shipyards. A lot of skilled workers died in Grayson's space industry. That will absolutely have been a hit on the value of Sky Domes.

We have nothing from his Celeriness concerning her net value, but take it as a given that she's in the top 1% of Manticore society for wealth, now. She hob nobs with the wealthy and affluent. Much of her wealth is tied up in resources, such as the section of the asteroid belt she was given, or the land the Harrington House is on. But she also has vast cash resources, a great deal of which you can be certain she has plowed back into Sky Domes and Blackrock, especially after the strike happened. She'd take care of her people that way.
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Re: Current net worth of Grayson Skydomes?
Post by ldwechsler   » Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:19 am

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Fireflair wrote:To answer your second question first, we know from text ev that Sky Domes was impacted by the strike. Black Rock was decimated, along with the shipyards. A lot of skilled workers died in Grayson's space industry. That will absolutely have been a hit on the value of Sky Domes.

We have nothing from his Celeriness concerning her net value, but take it as a given that she's in the top 1% of Manticore society for wealth, now. She hob nobs with the wealthy and affluent. Much of her wealth is tied up in resources, such as the section of the asteroid belt she was given, or the land the Harrington House is on. But she also has vast cash resources, a great deal of which you can be certain she has plowed back into Sky Domes and Blackrock, especially after the strike happened. She'd take care of her people that way.


My point was that we don't actually know if Skydomes...which was centered on building on planet was directly connected to the enterprises that were destroyed.

And without info from RFC there is a lot we will never know. She's clearly a billionaire, was one fairly early in the series.
But we don't know how much her losses are or much else about it.
Actually, RFC has played with us. We've had a couple of chapters of HH dealing with business people but no real focus on any of that for at least the past dozen books.
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Re: Current net worth of Grayson Skydomes?
Post by WLBjork   » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:40 am

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Fireflair wrote:To answer your second question first, we know from text ev that Sky Domes was impacted by the strike. Black Rock was decimated, along with the shipyards. A lot of skilled workers died in Grayson's space industry. That will absolutely have been a hit on the value of Sky Domes.

We have nothing from his Celeriness concerning her net value, but take it as a given that she's in the top 1% of Manticore society for wealth, now. She hob nobs with the wealthy and affluent. Much of her wealth is tied up in resources, such as the section of the asteroid belt she was given, or the land the Harrington House is on. But she also has vast cash resources, a great deal of which you can be certain she has plowed back into Sky Domes and Blackrock, especially after the strike happened. She'd take care of her people that way.


ldwechsler wrote:My point was that we don't actually know if Skydomes...which was centered on building on planet was directly connected to the enterprises that were destroyed.

And without info from RFC there is a lot we will never know. She's clearly a billionaire, was one fairly early in the series.
But we don't know how much her losses are or much else about it.
Actually, RFC has played with us. We've had a couple of chapters of HH dealing with business people but no real focus on any of that for at least the past dozen books.


I was left with the impression - I'm afraid I can't remember which book it was off-hand - that Skydomes of Grayson was the parent company, that all other companies were at best wholly owned subsidaries or under joint ownership.
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Re: Current net worth of Grayson Skydomes?
Post by lyonheart   » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:51 am

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Hi Fireflair,

Guys, its Blackbird not Blackrock.

Secondly we learned in AoV that Sky Domes grew some M$11.5 Billion in the roughly two years Honor was gone, an increase of something near 2/3 in roughly two years.

At that rate (I thought it had doubled in two years-a lot easier math) I believe, assuming the same rate of growth [albeit unlikely, but if they grew that much during the worst of the war, the armistice etc shouldn't have affected them that much], Sky Domes should be worth upwards of M$223 B, even to M$232 B or more, which before counting her stead holder and other wealth, ought to put her in the top 00.000001%, ie among the top 40 wealthiest individuals in the SEM, maybe even the top four [or the top 00.0000001%].

So after the queen and Klaus Hauptman, who's number four? Stacy?

I'm curious to learn what does this obviously nebulous data lead you toward, Hikeh?

The reason its four or forty is the SKM's population should have passed 4 billion around 1920 from 3.4215 B in 1900, even at less than 1% annual growth, given the figures in More than Honor's 'The Universe of HH'.

Frankly given what a meritocratic bonanza the SKM was, and the SEM is, not to mention 3 planets still with plenty of room for homegrown and immigrant growth; the population should have topped 4 billion back in 1914, being among other things, the 500th anniversary of the first shuttle landing on Manticore, which wasn't mentioned in AoV, but probably would have been lavishly celebrated despite the war.

But his celeriness was telling another story, and word count has always been a problem when he wants to tell us so much more.

Best wishes always,

L


Fireflair wrote:To answer your second question first, we know from text ev that Sky Domes was impacted by the strike. Black Rock was decimated, along with the shipyards. A lot of skilled workers died in Grayson's space industry. That will absolutely have been a hit on the value of Sky Domes.

We have nothing from his Celeriness concerning her net value, but take it as a given that she's in the top 1% of Manticore society for wealth, now. She hob nobs with the wealthy and affluent. Much of her wealth is tied up in resources, such as the section of the asteroid belt she was given, or the land the Harrington House is on. But she also has vast cash resources, a great deal of which you can be certain she has plowed back into Sky Domes and Blackrock, especially after the strike happened. She'd take care of her people that way.
Any snippet or post from RFC is good if not great!
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Re: Current net worth of Grayson Skydomes?
Post by saber964   » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:30 pm

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Fireflair wrote:To answer your second question first, we know from text ev that Sky Domes was impacted by the strike. Black Rock was decimated, along with the shipyards. A lot of skilled workers died in Grayson's space industry. That will absolutely have been a hit on the value of Sky Domes.

We have nothing from his Celeriness concerning her net value, but take it as a given that she's in the top 1% of Manticore society for wealth, now. She hob nobs with the wealthy and affluent. Much of her wealth is tied up in resources, such as the section of the asteroid belt she was given, or the land the Harrington House is on. But she also has vast cash resources, a great deal of which you can be certain she has plowed back into Sky Domes and Blackrock, especially after the strike happened. She'd take care of her people that way.



Two problems the Harrington freehold is privately owned by Alfred Harrington and the chunk of the asteroid belt is entailed to the Earldom of Harrington and is owned by her cousin Lady Sarah Harrington, Third Countess Harrington.
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Re: Current net worth of Grayson Skydomes?
Post by ldwechsler   » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:11 pm

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saber964 wrote:
Fireflair wrote:To answer your second question first, we know from text ev that Sky Domes was impacted by the strike. Black Rock was decimated, along with the shipyards. A lot of skilled workers died in Grayson's space industry. That will absolutely have been a hit on the value of Sky Domes.

We have nothing from his Celeriness concerning her net value, but take it as a given that she's in the top 1% of Manticore society for wealth, now. She hob nobs with the wealthy and affluent. Much of her wealth is tied up in resources, such as the section of the asteroid belt she was given, or the land the Harrington House is on. But she also has vast cash resources, a great deal of which you can be certain she has plowed back into Sky Domes and Blackrock, especially after the strike happened. She'd take care of her people that way.



Two problems the Harrington freehold is privately owned by Alfred Harrington and the chunk of the asteroid belt is entailed to the Earldom of Harrington and is owned by her cousin Lady Sarah Harrington, Third Countess Harrington.


Let us note that Honor's son is one of two heirs to the White Haven estate. If Emily's girl is also considered Honor's, which might be the case, then her successors get it all. And she still seems to have her large estate on Manticore.

Grayson is growing very fast. The genetic changes wrought by Allison should make many changes as well.

And I should point out that after a certain point, the number of billions doesn't really matter except as a marker.
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Re: Current net worth of Grayson Skydomes?
Post by Annachie   » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:08 pm

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Raul is the heir to Whitehaven, unless there's some entailment laws that RFC hasn't mentioned yet.

More likely, he hasn't thought about it.
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Re: Current net worth of Grayson Skydomes?
Post by Fox2!   » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:42 pm

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Annachie wrote:Raul is the heir to Whitehaven, unless there's some entailment laws that RFC hasn't mentioned yet.

More likely, he hasn't thought about it.


Raul is heir to White Haven (earldom, Manticore), Harrington (duchy, Gryphon) and Harrington (stead holding, Grayson). And to whatever share Honor has in the Harrington freehold, after the Doctors Harrington make their final transitions.
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