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by cthia » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:24 am | |
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Email from my niece, who is turning coat... LOL
"Is it possible that a Winton contingency plan to ensure succession under all circumstances includes the freezing of Winton blood?" Doh! You turn coat! Why, I oughta... Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by Weird Harold » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:34 am | |
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That would be easier to dispose of or adulterate than killing off the Dynasty "Root and Branch" Plus the Beowulf Code prohibits the cloning or posthumous conception for the purposes of inheritance -- as detailed in discussions on the succession of Harrington Stedding when Honor was presumed dead. .
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by Annachie » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:38 am | |
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As I said, it would be because she held the place together.
Kind of like regent into Queen by aclaim. Damn, the subtle uses of that MAlign control tec can be nasty. Get a mole in to the office somewhere, inplant the target with a "automatically sign when you smell this on something with that colour on it" or similar. (Ok stretching, but you get the idea) Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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by Annachie » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:40 am | |
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Cthia, have you ever introduced your neice to The Prince by Machiavelli?
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by Weird Harold » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:44 am | |
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That sort of ignores Honor's personality: She would decline the Crown much as Geo Washington did. .
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by munroburton » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:52 am | |
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Aye, a Steadholder has more power than any Dukes of the Star Kingdom. However, it is not a Manticoran title and should not affect internal orders of precedence and succession - it'll be counted as a 'very important visitor from foreign countries'(which in the UK, comes after the Dukes and sons of royal Dukes). You've indirectly raised another point there - Honor is a Steadholder. Steadholders are only allowed a limited quantity of military retainers. Honor's coronation as Queen(and Empress) of Manticore would violate this provision of Grayson constitution. I suppose someone will have to carry out an EE strike on Grayson as well, exterminating the Mayhews, every other Steadholder and all their successors. Unfortunately, even that won't work, as Grayson retained an exclusively male succession for the Protectorship.
There's definitely a later reference. Before the Lynx Terminus, there was only the Kingdom's Parliament we all know and love so much; after the Talbott constitutional convention there was to be a new Imperial Parliament created above and in addition to the Royal Parliament. HoS:
I'll have a look for the textev later, there definitely was something implying that Honor was one of the first peers appointed to that new body and thus had become the Star Empire's most highest-ranking duchess, probably whilst still being the Star Kingdom's newest duchess and forever recognised as a junior peerage, way behind all the First and Second Shareholders' descendants. Precedence is always a complicated mess. |
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by George J. Smith » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:04 am | |
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Honor is related by blood to one of the original settlers, therefore she would be in line to inherit if every other person related by blood to any of the original settlers was eliminated.
Textev is in the Stephanie Harrington books. And Honor herself mentioned the lineage connection to Stephanie and Karl. Her gggggggreat whatever grandmother (Stephanie) married Karl who was the son of an original settler, even though he passed the title to one of his siblings, the blood line is still there. Last edited by George J. Smith on Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
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by cthia » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:25 am | |
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Not if the overarching factor is duty. If presented to Honor "as it is her duty" would cause her to hit that "line" like a shark in heat (pardon the pun). Remember, the "call of duty" was the lure Grayson used to solicit her back. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by Annachie » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:04 am | |
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Not quoting WW or cthia, but I think the only person who could really answer if Honor would take the crown in such circumstances is RFC.
Wonder if Nimitz could be persuaded to take it, thus making Honor the royal Pet ;p Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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by cthia » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:01 am | |
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Indeed Annachie. I like the way you think.
Yes it can be. Especially as a native tool in Aldona's arsenal. I sure do know what you mean. Heck yea! Suddenly, sheepherding of the Herculean kind doesn't seem so implausible. I'm gobsmacked! It all falls under the subtle applications of their technology — a surface barely scratched claims Anisimovna. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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