Eridani Edict Violation of the most Dismissive Kind...

It amazes me how much alike Anisimovna and Honor are. Aldona is exactly what she would be, if Honor had been born an Alpha.

Also as the Salamander's counterpart, it was suggested as praise to Anisimovna, "You must have meticulously planned it beforehand and knew full-well that we were going to get such a slate wiping strike!"

Much as Honor allowed her bridge to think she knew Theisman would flinch first and break off against her death ride. So too did Anisimovna, "I'll just allow them their fantasy."

Then Parliament gets together and selects a new line from the senior Lords to be the monarch. Oh, but wait, you said that you are killing them too! Then Parliament goes and selects the second senior. Oh, but you are killing them too! Then Parliament goes and selects the third senior. Oh, but you are killing them too!

Do you understand just how absurd this sounds? You are killing everyone ahead of Honor, and their families! They are not all going to magically be in one place! Hell, all of Congress and their families are not in one place ever. But your magical "surgical" strike is going to take them all out? Bullshit. Hence I agree with Weird Harold's point: if the strike is big enough to get all the possible people ahead of Honor, then it must have devastated all the planets in the Manticore system and there is no more Star Empire; otherwise this attack is "small" enough that many people missed it. It cannot be both.

Potato wrote:Then Parliament gets together and selects a new line from the senior Lords to be the monarch. Oh, but wait, you said that you are killing them too! Then Parliament goes and selects the second senior. Oh, but you are killing them too! Then Parliament goes and selects the third senior. Oh, but you are killing them too!

Do you understand just how absurd this sounds? You are killing everyone ahead of Honor, and their families! They are not all going to magically be in one place! Hell, all of Congress and their families are not in one place ever. But your magical "surgical" strike is going to take them all out? Bullshit. Hence I agree with Weird Harold's point: if the strike is big enough to get all the possible people ahead of Honor, then it must have devastated all the planets in the Manticore system and there is no more Star Empire; otherwise this attack is "small" enough that many people missed it. It cannot be both.

Referring to the premise of the thread as bullshit does not represent "a modicum of decorum" yet has thus far failed to bring out the Duckk.

So, pump your brakes Tater. Your fries are about to burn.

cthia wrote:Referring to the premise of the thread as bullshit does not represent "a modicum of decorum" yet has thus far failed to bring out the Duckk.

That doesn't change the fact that your initial premise is implausible to the Nth degree. There is no way to bring about your stated result without destroying nearly the entire population of the Old Kingdom, including all of the Nobility in the RMN, RMMC, Merchant Marine, Army, Diplomatic Corps, and every other off-planet vocation or avocation.

He's the honorverse social expert version of skimper the honorverse tech guru.

Let us do some math here. There have been 16 monarchs of the Kingdom. That means 15 generations have been born into the line of succession. Considering that it is a mostly open frontierish world, I feel we would be extremely safe assuming a birthrate of 2.5 children per couple. It is probably higher, but lets stick with that. 15^2.5=871.4

That means that there are, in this generation alone over eight hundred people somewhere in the line for the throne. Plus any parents or grandparents still alive would, with out a doubt, bump us up over a thousand.

Then we have the three Grand Duchies who would out rank Honor. According to the Wiki there are 14 more Duchies mentioned in the books that would all out rank Duchy Harrington. One of these is a life title, and one more basically runs in the Winton family. That leaves 12. Even if we assume that half of those were life titles or have merged into other titles, it still leaves us with nine titles that outrank Honor's, and would be more likely to be picked as a new monarch.

Even if we reduce the number of people in those lines to 500 to account for overlap, that is another 4500 people who would be senior to Honor. So this party of yours has over 5500 people, and my numbers are almost with out a doubt on the low side. That is the entire crew of a US Navy nuclear aircraft carrier, including air wing. It is going to include Queens and princes, accountants and lawers, sailors, factory workers, petty criminals, a payed duelist until recently, even people who's families have left the system generations ago. And EVERY SINGLE ONE HAS TO BE THERE! Not. Going. To. Happen.

cthia wrote:Referring to the premise of the thread as bullshit does not represent "a modicum of decorum" yet has thus far failed to bring out the Duckk.

So, pump your brakes Tater. Your fries are about to burn.

I recall more than one occasion where you have said verbatim "shit happens". And the forum rules allows "PG-13" language. So I feel just fine with how I worded my post.

crewdude48 wrote:Let us do some math here. There have been 16 monarchs of the Kingdom. That means 15 generations have been born into the line of succession. Considering that it is a mostly open frontierish world, I feel we would be extremely safe assuming a birthrate of 2.5 children per couple. It is probably higher, but lets stick with that. 15^2.5=871.4

That means that there are, in this generation alone over eight hundred people somewhere in the line for the throne. Plus any parents or grandparents still alive would, with out a doubt, bump us up over a thousand.

Then we have the three Grand Duchies who would out rank Honor. According to the Wiki there are 14 more Duchies mentioned in the books that would all out rank Duchy Harrington. One of these is a life title, and one more basically runs in the Winton family. That leaves 12. Even if we assume that half of those were life titles or have merged into other titles, it still leaves us with nine titles that outrank Honor's, and would be more likely to be picked as a new monarch.

Even if we reduce the number of people in those lines to 500 to account for overlap, that is another 4500 people who would be senior to Honor. So this party of yours has over 5500 people, and my numbers are almost with out a doubt on the low side. That is the entire crew of a US Navy nuclear aircraft carrier, including air wing. It is going to include Queens and princes, accountants and lawers, sailors, factory workers, petty criminals, a payed duelist until recently, even people who's families have left the system generations ago. And EVERY SINGLE ONE HAS TO BE THERE! Not. Going. To. Happen.

Interesting. Around 5500 people. About the population and the area of a small college. Say Wake Forest University of approximately 5000 students over some 600 acres. And an event that never fails to bring almost all of them home and even many of the others from past years decades ago are "Homecomings." Where many other family members, past alumni, faculty and staff alike are present as well. The sentimentality of the human element, doing the heavy lifting for.

Aldona Anisimovna is a master of the human element and she uses a freaking fulcrum.

And when was the last time you had 5500 of your relatives over, hmm? Hell, when have you had even one-tenth of that? How oblivious can you be? This is just like your silly "pirate battlecruiser" topic! No one in the world makes plans like this.

Potato wrote:And when was the last time you had 5500 of your relatives over, hmm? Hell, when have you had even one-tenth of that? How oblivious can you be? This is just like your silly "pirate battlecruiser" topic! No one in the world makes plans like this.

If they were relatives like you, I didn't.

I'll just consider the source.