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Field of Dishonor, Chapter 21
Post by pushmar   » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:45 am

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Has anyone ever noticed that Chapter 21 of Field of Dishonor has perhaps have a somewhat different writing style that that which is usual of RFC's work? Maybe like John Ringo, or Eric Flint? Maybe a bit more concise?
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Re: Field of Dishonor, Chapter 21
Post by kzt   » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:46 am

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The first 4 books were all written together and submitted at the same time IIRC.
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Re: Field of Dishonor, Chapter 21
Post by pushmar   » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:10 am

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I've always enjoyed David Weber's writing style, and lately have appreciated it even more.

If David Weber did write this chapter as you said, that means even more. I'm impressed.
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Re: Field of Dishonor, Chapter 21
Post by rdt   » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:35 pm

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pushmar wrote:I've always enjoyed David Weber's writing style, and lately have appreciated it even more.

If David Weber did write this chapter as you said, that means even more. I'm impressed.

Of course David wrote it. No question. But I have a question/comment. David constantly and always refers to a meal called supper. Supper is considered a light meal, perhaps eaten in the evening when one has had a heavy lunch. Dinner is what most folks (not from the southern USA?) eat in the evening. I don't know why, but it bothers me a bit when I read that Honor invited whoever to supper. What? She can't afford to really put on a feed?
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Re: Field of Dishonor, Chapter 21
Post by MuonNeutrino   » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:11 pm

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rdt wrote:But I have a question/comment. David constantly and always refers to a meal called supper. Supper is considered a light meal, perhaps eaten in the evening when one has had a heavy lunch. Dinner is what most folks (not from the southern USA?) eat in the evening. I don't know why, but it bothers me a bit when I read that Honor invited whoever to supper. What? She can't afford to really put on a feed?


This may be a regional language thing, but where I'm from (northeastern US) the words are almost completely interchangeable, at least in common conversation. (That is, they both refer to a meal eaten in the evening.) The only real difference is that a more formal evening meal is generally going to be called 'dinner' (usually with some kind of prefix - 'sunday dinner', etc) rather than 'supper', but simply using the word 'dinner' doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be formal. Either way, though, here the word choice has nothing to do with the size of the meal.
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Re: Field of Dishonor, Chapter 21
Post by HB of CJ   » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:14 pm

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I for one has also noted many incidences where the writing style has changed. Usually this happens chapter by chapter. Once in awhile it seems that somebody edited stuff inside one chapter. It is sutle and does not seem to affect the richness of the various story lines. Some chapters seem almost to have been written either earlier or later. Just me. HB of CJ (old coot)
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Re: Field of Dishonor, Chapter 21
Post by dan92677   » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:57 pm

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I was raised in the south and our three meals were breakfast, lunch and supper.
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Re: Field of Dishonor, Chapter 21
Post by cthia   » Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:25 pm

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MuonNeutrino wrote:
rdt wrote:But I have a question/comment. David constantly and always refers to a meal called supper. Supper is considered a light meal, perhaps eaten in the evening when one has had a heavy lunch. Dinner is what most folks (not from the southern USA?) eat in the evening. I don't know why, but it bothers me a bit when I read that Honor invited whoever to supper. What? She can't afford to really put on a feed?


This may be a regional language thing, but where I'm from (northeastern US) the words are almost completely interchangeable, at least in common conversation. (That is, they both refer to a meal eaten in the evening.) The only real difference is that a more formal evening meal is generally going to be called 'dinner' (usually with some kind of prefix - 'sunday dinner', etc) rather than 'supper', but simply using the word 'dinner' doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be formal. Either way, though, here the word choice has nothing to do with the size of the meal.


It doesn't have anything to do with the size of the meal. Dinners can encompass a formal setting. But not necessarily. Dinners can also cover the needs - from friends to business associates to foreign dignitaries.

Supper, as maintained by my parents, is offered to a close-knit group of people. Hence the term, "come and 'sup' with us." It carries an informal, more intimate and private connotation, beyond just eating. As, "The Last Supper," of Jesus with his disciples...
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will SUP with him, and he with me. ( Revelation 3 )


In essence, Harrington was extending an honor, to a close-knit group of people - her family away from home.

Although it is used interchangeably in most modern regions - religious geographics, certainly amongst the older generation, may still observe a separate meaning.

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Re: Field of Dishonor, Chapter 21
Post by Theemile   » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:42 am

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MuonNeutrino wrote:
rdt wrote:But I have a question/comment. David constantly and always refers to a meal called supper. Supper is considered a light meal, perhaps eaten in the evening when one has had a heavy lunch. Dinner is what most folks (not from the southern USA?) eat in the evening. I don't know why, but it bothers me a bit when I read that Honor invited whoever to supper. What? She can't afford to really put on a feed?


This may be a regional language thing, but where I'm from (northeastern US) the words are almost completely interchangeable, at least in common conversation. (That is, they both refer to a meal eaten in the evening.) The only real difference is that a more formal evening meal is generally going to be called 'dinner' (usually with some kind of prefix - 'sunday dinner', etc) rather than 'supper', but simply using the word 'dinner' doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be formal. Either way, though, here the word choice has nothing to do with the size of the meal.



I'm from the middle of the rustbelt, here the words are interchangeable as well, with dinner occasionally used in more formal contexts also. However, if someone were to say "Sunday Dinner" (specifically), it usually, but not necessarily, connotates a family get together lasting most of the afternoon and early evening, not just the meal itself.
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Re: Field of Dishonor, Chapter 21
Post by HB of CJ   » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:40 pm

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Breakfast, Dinner, Supper. SW Virginia. USA. HB of CJ (old coot)
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