New ship idea

lyonheart wrote:Hi Draken,

The remaining RHN's BB's have all been scrapped or await scrapping, so rebuilding a decades old 4.5 MT hull doesn't make much sense when it'd be faster to builder something far better from the inside out.

Rob and SWM's points are all very well taken, so consider reviewing the texts a bit more before getting to far ahead of what RFC's likely planned out.

OK?

For example, given the Mars increase over the Star Knights, I wouldn't be surprised if the new RHN BC at the beginning of the second war had been 50% bigger than the known RMN SDM BC's [say 1.3-1.35 MT], which should make it easier to adapt or convert their new construction to their new DDM.

L

Draken wrote:For now better use of Haven ships would be sending them to Manticore and Talbott as system defense forces, so we could take as much as possible from Home Fleet and sent it to execute Lacoon II.
Changing production of Bolthole shouldn't be that hard, they will have plans and a lot of experienced Manticoran and Grayson workers. Pritchair took with her to Manticore something like 10000 POW from Grendelsbane? They're experienced and we could use them as teaches and instructors for new workers and for Havenites in Bolthole.
But more important thing for GA right now is creation of missile production in Beowulf, refitting ships is faster than building new and Keyhole One or Two will be great to have on at least one ship in squadron.
When IV design of Manticoran SD(P) will be ready we should be able to build them in Grayson and Manticore.
Yards should be ready relatively soon and we can finish them first and after that finish other parts of station. What about building another complex in Basilisk and maybe in Silesia. Silesian one could be very easy to hide, just build it in system similar to Hancock and we have place to build prototypes and other experimental weaponry. What about using Andermani yards? They have similar level of technology and they know how to create MDM with fussion plants.
One small though on new battle cruisers, why don't we just take typical Haven BB hull throw out everything which we don't need and put more important stuff and upgrade drive. It should be as deadly as Nike and much easier to build for Haven. They know how to build that type of hull and 4MT hull will be even better than 2.5MT of Nike.

Haven have very big DDM which are similar size as Manticore MDM and upgrading from D to M shouldn't be a big problem.

Duckk wrote:

Haven have very big DDM which are similar size as Manticore MDM and upgrading from D to M shouldn't be a big problem.

Err...what? They don't have DDMs.

Armed Neo-Bob wrote:

Duckk wrote:@Draken "Haven have very big DDM which are similar size as Manticore MDM and upgrading from D to M shouldn't be a big problem."

Err...what? They don't have DDMs.

He might think they did from the commerce protection SIM in SoSag when the Abigail's havenite force defeated Zilwicki and the other middies. But that was just a sim.

Rob

Edit: i just looked again, and he said "upgrading from D to M" which is backward. So maybe he means dropping a drive ring from the MDM and reducing the scale a bit? If Erewhon gave Foraker enough data, she could maybe pull off a 2-drive version of a Mk17- sort of system. But you'd have to have a really, really big cruiser to use it.

Rob

At All Costs - Chapter 7 wrote:"Excuse me, Sir Thomas," Honor said, "but what about the Andermani?"
[snip a bit about their SD(P) numbers and status]
"Their multi-drive missiles are considerably cruder than ours. In fact, they're less sophisticated than the ones Haven is currently deploying. They're almost as big as Havenite three-drive missiles, but they incorporate only two drives. Tactically, they're a lot more like the Mark 16s we're deploying aboard the new Saganami-Cs. They've got heavier warheads than the Mark 16, but their range is very similar. And because they're capacitor-fed, without the Mark 16's fusion plant, their EW is less effective. They simply can't match our birds' power budgets. And while their pods are bigger than ours are, they actually carry fewer birds than the Republic's currently do, which means their salvo density is thinner than ours, as well.