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Re: Has the Mesan Alignment already lost?
Post by JohnRoth   » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:24 pm

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JeffEngel wrote:
james99 wrote:I don't think that the MA has lost. However, there some weaknesses in MA. I think that will show up again and again. I formed the impression the Verdant Vista Wormhole Bridge has two termini in the Felix system. However, it might be that the two termini are bridges to somewhere else. My reading of those paragraphs are a bit confused. The Wormhole junction in the Felix system has four secondary termini one of which leads to Darius.

Torch's wormhole is a bridge, with only one destination - properly speaking. But the other destination is SGC-902-36-G, and the termini is one of the Twins - two wormhole termini that open up in SGC-902-36-G, with those termini very, very close to one another.

The other Twin leads to Felix, a proper wormhole junction, with termini leading to SGC-902-36-G, Darius, and two other undisclosed locations.
See -
http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/Felix_ ... e_Junction
http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/SGC-90 ... le_Anomaly

I think that other nearby terminus in SGC-902-36-G is why the Torch wormhole has that weird bump.


Yes. The Torch wormhole goes to The Twins. The other terminus at The Twins goes to Felix, which is a four terminus junction. One of the other termini is at Darius, and the other two are elsewhere. Felix is 10 ly from Mannerheim, which has the largest navy in the Renaissance Factor.

See chapter 50 of Torch of Freedom.
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Re: Has the Mesan Alignment already lost?
Post by Jonathan_S   » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:12 pm

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JeffEngel wrote:
james99 wrote:I formed the impression the Verdant Vista Wormhole Bridge has two termini in the Felix system. However, it might be that the two termini are bridges to somewhere else. My reading of those paragraphs are a bit confused. The Wormhole junction in the Felix system has four secondary termini one of which leads to Darius.

Torch's wormhole is a bridge, with only one destination - properly speaking. But the other destination is SGC-902-36-G, and the termini is one of the Twins - two wormhole termini that open up in SGC-902-36-G, with those termini very, very close to one another.

The other Twin leads to Felix, a proper wormhole junction, with termini leading to SGC-902-36-G, Darius, and two other undisclosed locations.
See -
http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/Felix_ ... e_Junction
http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/SGC-90 ... le_Anomaly

I think that other nearby terminus in SGC-902-36-G is why the Torch wormhole has that weird bump.
There were earlier rumors that the Torch wormhole was actually a junction, with at least one additional terminus; which I believe the Manticoran survey team mentioned. But their investigation found those rumors were found to be incorrect.
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Re: Has the Mesan Alignment already lost?
Post by JeffEngel   » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:41 pm

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Jonathan_S wrote:
JeffEngel wrote:Torch's wormhole is a bridge, with only one destination - properly speaking. But the other destination is SGC-902-36-G, and the termini is one of the Twins - two wormhole termini that open up in SGC-902-36-G, with those termini very, very close to one another.

The other Twin leads to Felix, a proper wormhole junction, with termini leading to SGC-902-36-G, Darius, and two other undisclosed locations.
See -
http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/Felix_ ... e_Junction
http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/SGC-90 ... le_Anomaly

I think that other nearby terminus in SGC-902-36-G is why the Torch wormhole has that weird bump.
There were earlier rumors that the Torch wormhole was actually a junction, with at least one additional terminus; which I believe the Manticoran survey team mentioned. But their investigation found those rumors were found to be incorrect.

Right. But the actual situation, in which the far end of that wormhole isn't one of several termini but one termini two light-minutes from another - which is itself a terminus of a pretty large junction - does help explain those rumors. Practically, it's almost as useful as a proper junction terminus (assuming no killer fleet waiting to do a killer fleet thing at the other end), and as a matter of wormhole physics, it does present as something other than a plain vanilla wormhole bridge end on account of close association with a proper junction.
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