Vince wrote:runsforcelery wrote:[="hairbear541"]the reason I keep bringing the subject up is i'm ex-navy plus in rfc's starfire series they use aerospace fighters and vessels about the size of LACs . I know an ASF wouldn't be as long legged as a LAC , but wouldn't a fleet ASF be a viable supplement to the LAC forces . during the Vietnam war the F-4 Phantom wasn't called a baby B-52 for nothing(they carried about half there own wt. in ordinance... missles ,bombs or a combination of both). the original old salty sea dog
I don't think you're really fully aware of the difference in size between a sting ship and a LAC. A Strike runs to about 30,000 tons; a steamship runs to about 600 tons. That's a ratio of roughly 50-to-1. A B-52 H had an empty weight of approximately 185,000 pounds. An F-4 E had an empty weight of approximately 30,000 pounds. That's a ratio of roughly 6-to-1. And as KZT and Threemile have pointed out, the weapons which can be fitted into the steamship aren't even remotely on the same scale as shipkillers or even LACkillers. It wouldn't be a case of a Phantom being compared to a Stratofortress; it would be a case of World War II
Fletcher-class destroyer without torpedoes (2,500 tons displacement) being compared to a present-day
Nimitz-class carrier (roughly 100,000 tons displacement) . . . and that would be the comparison between the sting ship and the LAC. Against the smallest combat-effective ship out there (a nominal destroyer with a displacement of a mere 120,000 tons) the ratio between the warship and the sting ship would be 200-to-1. Put another way, the sting ship is 0.5% the size of the destroyer, is no faster once maximum velocity has been attained, it is not appreciably quicker to accelerate than a LAC, and is unprotected by sidewalls or wedge.
Not a winning proposition.[/]
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On a more serious note,
Shrikes mass about 20,000 tons, unless you are referring to a new model of Shrike that we haven't seen in the books yet.
Data from:[="House of Steel, The Royal Manticoran Navy, Order of Battle, LIGHT ATTACK CRAFT(LAC)"]Shrike-class light attack craft
Mass: 20,250 tons
Dimensions: 71 × 20 × 20 m
Acceleration: 636 G (6.237 kps²)
80% Accel: 508.8 G (4.989 kps²)
Forward: 4M, 1G, 4CM, 6PD
Service Life: 1912–1917
Shrike-B-class light attack craft
Mass: 21,250 tons
Dimensions: 72 × 20 × 20 m
Acceleration: 635.5 G (6.232 kps²)
80% Accel: 508.4 G (4.986 kps²)
Forward: 4M, 1G, 4CM, 6PD
Aft: 4CM, 6PD
Service Life: 1914–present
[/]Note for readers: House of Steel gives data for the ship design when initially built and does not give information for refits.
