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Transmission of grav pulses
Post by Aygar   » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:00 pm

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Can grav pulse communication be recieved through a interposed military impeller wedge?
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Re: Transmission of grav pulses
Post by runsforcelery   » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:14 pm

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Aygar wrote:Can grav pulse communication be recieved through a interposed military impeller wedge?


No.


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Re: Transmission of grav pulses
Post by Aygar   » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:19 pm

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runsforcelery wrote:
Aygar wrote:Can grav pulse communication be recieved through a interposed military impeller wedge?


No.


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Re: Transmission of grav pulses
Post by runsforcelery   » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:38 pm

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Aygar wrote:
Aygar wrote:Can grav pulse communication be recieved through a interposed military impeller wedge?


runsforcelery wrote:
No.


Thank you



Goodness. What a . . . succinct exchange! :lol:


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Re: Transmission of grav pulses
Post by kzt   » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:02 pm

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runsforcelery wrote:
Goodness. What a . . . succinct exchange! :lol:

This is entirely too short and succinct. So let's make it more complex by pointing out that your ship could haul around (using a tractor) a RD or similar FTL capable device, keeping it outside your wedge. ;)
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Re: Transmission of grav pulses
Post by pokermind   » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:19 pm

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Hmm Honor and Mike are using FTL with wedges and sidewalls up using Hermes. FTL can't penetrate wedge, but you have sides and throat and kilt it can and does penetrate.

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Re: Transmission of grav pulses
Post by Jonathan_S   » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:18 pm

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pokermind wrote:Hmm Honor and Mike are using FTL with wedges and sidewalls up using Hermes. FTL can't penetrate wedge, but you have sides and throat and kilt it can and does penetrate.

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Yeah, but that's not too surprising. Imagine if no FTL signals could be seen when you had a wedge up. Ships would have to drop their wedge to get a real-time track of approaching enemy ships.

After all the signal generated by a wedge is more powerful and unmodulated, but otherwise it travels the same way an FTL comm signal does -- ripples along the next higher hyper-wall.




Although I do wonder if a fast spinning ship might generate some kind of beat pattern of ripples as the wedge whips around. And if so, how powerful that signal would that be.
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Re: Transmission of grav pulses
Post by Lord Skimper   » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:49 pm

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Re: Transmission of grav pulses
Post by Phalanx   » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:10 pm

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Jonathan_S wrote:
pokermind wrote:Hmm Honor and Mike are using FTL with wedges and sidewalls up using Hermes. FTL can't penetrate wedge, but you have sides and throat and kilt it can and does penetrate.

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Yeah, but that's not too surprising. Imagine if no FTL signals could be seen when you had a wedge up. Ships would have to drop their wedge to get a real-time track of approaching enemy ships.

After all the signal generated by a wedge is more powerful and unmodulated, but otherwise it travels the same way an FTL comm signal does -- ripples along the next higher hyper-wall.




Although I do wonder if a fast spinning ship might generate some kind of beat pattern of ripples as the wedge whips around. And if so, how powerful that signal would that be.


Strategic concerns aside, would it be possible to somehow setup a network of "Telegraph lines"(IN SPAAACCE!?
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Re: Transmission of grav pulses
Post by Jonathan_S   » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:27 pm

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Phalanx wrote:
Jonathan_S wrote:Yeah, but that's not too surprising. Imagine if no FTL signals could be seen when you had a wedge up. Ships would have to drop their wedge to get a real-time track of approaching enemy ships.

After all the signal generated by a wedge is more powerful and unmodulated, but otherwise it travels the same way an FTL comm signal does -- ripples along the next higher hyper-wall.




Although I do wonder if a fast spinning ship might generate some kind of beat pattern of ripples as the wedge whips around. And if so, how powerful that signal would that be.


Strategic concerns aside, would it be possible to somehow setup a network of "Telegraph lines"(IN SPAAACCE!?

I rather thought that's what the Hermes Buoys were. FTL comm relays to let you talk in near realtime over system-wide distances.


Now if you're asking about intersteller FTL, the answer is that it's possible technically, but not economically or practically. You need too many Hermes buoy like relays, they cost too much, and in hyper need way too much maintenance. Plus in hyper they're not all vastly faster than a dispatch boat. In normal space FTL comms are 62x faster than light, in the Theta bands it's only 1.2x faster than light (or 2x faster than a dispatch boat)



When I was speculating on alpha ripple signal from a very rapidly spinning wedge I was groping towards a possible basis for an FTL signal noise jammer; if it was "noisy" enough.

Admittedly, even if this does work a ship doing that would be bloody obvious and therefore rapidly targeted and destroyed.
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