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Re: Next book involving HH?
Post by Amaroq   » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:08 pm

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hanuman wrote:
Amaroq wrote:Another reason to read the "side story" novels is that you get different perspectives on the same events or happenings. I, personally, like to get the view from the other side and these books give you some idea of how the other characters deal with the events that you normally only "see" from Honor's POV.


Besides, aren't the 'side shows' supposed to merge into the main storyline again at some point? Reading the 'side stories' then becomes essential, in order to understand many of the characters and relationships that began, or are only found, there.


Certainly. They really shouldn't be called "side stories" anymore. They're not like the stories in the anthologies which don't have any direct, necessary bearing on the main storyline but just provide information to flesh out the Honoverse for those interested. The two arcs (Talbott and Zilwicki/Cachat) are meant to bring in multiple threads of the wider story and eventually weave them into the mainline Honor novels. They really are integral.
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Re: Next book involving HH?
Post by Dale B   » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:30 am

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I wouldn't be too sure about Honor and death rides being a thing of the past. Single ship rides, sure, barring extraordinary circumstances. But fleet sized ones are still quite probable. All it will take is a good commander on the other side setting a proper trap, and the Salamander could easily find herself in a hotter fire than ever before....with a few ships in formation that she has to find some way of extricating them from the mess she landed in.
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Re: Next book involving HH?
Post by Jonathan_S   » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:13 am

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Dale B wrote:I wouldn't be too sure about Honor and death rides being a thing of the past. Single ship rides, sure, barring extraordinary circumstances. But fleet sized ones are still quite probable. All it will take is a good commander on the other side setting a proper trap, and the Salamander could easily find herself in a hotter fire than ever before....with a few ships in formation that she has to find some way of extricating them from the mess she landed in.

Have to be one heck of a trap to make the fires hotter than Solon - and Mantie defensive tech has improved again since then.

And it seems unlikely that Honor is going to commanding any forces as small as she was during the Cutworm/Sanscript raids.


So unless her flagship gets ambushed, with only an escort or two, on a detached trip for some in person meeting I'm kind of doubtful we'll see it. (I hope I'm wrong, I'd love to see a good Harrington fight again. But I suspect that will be for the newer PoV characters)
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Re: Next book involving HH?
Post by Northstar   » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:19 pm

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Another excellent treecat story features Samantha and Nimitz, esp Sam, back on Sphinx. It is Changer of Worlds, in the HH anthology of the same name.
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Re: Next book involving HH?
Post by saber964   » Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:30 pm

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Jeslis wrote:Ack! 1 other random question;
I'm loving the Treecat perspectives.
Read the trio of books centered around HH's first Sphinxian(sp?) ancestor
Read HH's own encounter with *stinker* (real name escapes me)
Read the short story where Samantha goes to *stinkers* clan.. and convinces them to help with her kittens//bring several cats off world for a new colony.

Looking for any other Cat stories I may be missing.. specifically any involving the Manticorian Royalty /Queens/Kings and their cats'.


The short story where Honor meets Nimitz is called "The Best-Laid Plans" and is found in the Beginnings anthology.

One treecat story you missed is called "What Price Dreams?" and is found in the World of Honor anthology. It's about the first Manticoran royal bonding with a treecat, Queen Adrienne, and her treecat Dianchect.

Another is called "The Stray" from the same anthology, about Scott MacDallan, his treecat Fisher, and an unnamed, injured treecat. (Be prepared: this story will make you cry buckets. I don't care if you never cry at anything you read. This story will make you weep like a child.)

Also, might I encourage you to give the so-called "side novels" (the Torch and Talbott novels) a chance? Not only are they as fundamental to the storyline as the Honor novels themselves, they've got whole bundles of amazing characters. The Talbott series in particular is stacked with characters in the vein of early Honor - Aivars Terekhov, Abigail Hearns, Michael Oversteegen, and Helen Zilwicki, Jr, just to name a few. Not to mention it's where Michelle Henke really comes into her own. Other glorious characters include an admiral who will surprise your socks off and a quadrant governor who may in fact be the most astute politician in Manticore. You really don't know what you're missing.

In the novella The Stray, the strays's name is True Stalker we (so far) have not learned his human style name. He remains the only human bonded treecat without a human name.
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Re: Next book involving HH?
Post by roseandheather   » Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:56 pm

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Dale B wrote:I wouldn't be too sure about Honor and death rides being a thing of the past. Single ship rides, sure, barring extraordinary circumstances. But fleet sized ones are still quite probable. All it will take is a good commander on the other side setting a proper trap, and the Salamander could easily find herself in a hotter fire than ever before....with a few ships in formation that she has to find some way of extricating them from the mess she landed in.


I doubt death rides will be a thing of the past, but Honor is honestly just too senior to be put in a place where she's going to be the one doing them. It's going to be the up-and-comers - Abigail Hearns is a prime candidate for that sort of thing, and I'm sure there's more than a handful of Grand Alliance officers of her generation with fiendish tactical minds and too much courage who can pull that sort of thing off.
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Re: Next book involving HH?
Post by dreamrider   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:08 am

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roseandheather wrote:
Dale B wrote:I wouldn't be too sure about Honor and death rides being a thing of the past. Single ship rides, sure, barring extraordinary circumstances. But fleet sized ones are still quite probable. All it will take is a good commander on the other side setting a proper trap, and the Salamander could easily find herself in a hotter fire than ever before....with a few ships in formation that she has to find some way of extricating them from the mess she landed in.


I doubt death rides will be a thing of the past, but Honor is honestly just too senior to be put in a place where she's going to be the one doing them. It's going to be the up-and-comers - Abigail Hearns is a prime candidate for that sort of thing, and I'm sure there's more than a handful of Grand Alliance officers of her generation with fiendish tactical minds and too much courage who can pull that sort of thing off.


Well, except for when David somehow engineers a situation where Honor has to take Unconquered, and all her honorary crew, into action. I swear, he's gonna find a way to make it happen; how could he resist.

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Re: Next book involving HH?
Post by roseandheather   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:13 am

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dreamrider wrote:
Well, except for when David somehow engineers a situation where Honor has to take Unconquered, and all her honorary crew, into action. I swear, he's gonna find a way to make it happen; how could he resist.

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:o :shock:

:twisted:

Of course. Unconquered is the only ship in history to have been commanded in action by both of the RMN's greatest heroes; Honor's been slated for that list since the start, of course she's going to have to take the old girl out for one last ride!!
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Re: Next book involving HH?
Post by Bruno Behrends   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:42 am

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dreamrider wrote:
Well, except for when David somehow engineers a situation where Honor has to take Unconquered, and all her honorary crew, into action. I swear, he's gonna find a way to make it happen; how could he resist.

dreamrider


Her on a deathride in a major fleet action is hard to see atm, yes, unless DW comes up with more dangerous Alignment fleets than we know of so far.

However all kinds of other things could happen. And I pray something does because I just love Honor in action!

She could get trapped on some planet during an unforeseen enemy offensive, she could get trapped by crazed Sollies during a diplomatic mission, she could be passenger on a civilian ship or a military transport which inconveniences somehow, she could become the victim of some political plot at home, she could be 'accidental bycatch' during some enemy raid aimed at someone else she happens to be with at the time, Beowulf might be infiltrated to a greater extent than anticipated and something might happen during a visit of hers there, or treason - allies suddenly opening fire for example, or an unanticipated enemy action when she is visiting frontline troups or visits with some allied government or groundside element
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Re: Next book involving HH?
Post by Spacekiwi   » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:19 am

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Will it be called honor unconquered do you think, or sacrifice of honor? :D
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