How fast can the Streak Drive climb hyper bands?

Weird Harold wrote:

n7axw wrote:I'm a bit obtuse on this subject, but apart from getting you where you need to go in a hurry, do streaks offer any tactical advantages apart from MAlign's very effective stealth?

Don

Honor could have used Streak Drives when Eighth Fleet was conducting deep penetration raids and also acting as Home Fleet's reserve. She would have been able to reduce the time spent traveling to and from the raids and been able to either raid more or spend more time reinforcing Home Fleet in fact as well as in reputation.

Streak Drives are probably more valuable in the way the MAlign has been suing them: faster information flow gives them a strategic advantage similar to Manticore's inside position on information to and from the League.

Jonathan_S wrote:There are definite advantages to getting there in only 69% of the time it used to take (best estimate from the few data points we have on streak drive times).

But they don't tend to be tactical ones. ...

Weird Harold wrote:

Jonathan_S wrote:There are definite advantages to getting there in only 69% of the time it used to take (best estimate from the few data points we have on streak drive times).

But they don't tend to be tactical ones. ...

Like I said, the Streak Drive's effect on information flow will have more effect on strategy than any tactical advantage. Even the example of Eighth Fleet's dual role is arguably a strategic advantage rather than tactical.

Relax wrote:Why get miffed?

Weird Harold wrote:

Relax wrote:Why get miffed?

Who's miffed. Not I.

n7axw wrote:I'm a bit obtuse on this subject, but apart from getting you where you need to go in a hurry, do streaks offer any tactical advantages apart from MAlign's very effective stealth?

Don

lyonheart wrote:Hi N7AXW,

It's apparent strategic purpose doesn't seem to have a tactical dimension as I mentioned in my first post.

The streak drive permits 50% faster travel in hyper, reaching the Kappa band with an apparent normal space velocity of 4500C, about 12.3 LY/day, my curiosity is wondering about potential tactical limitations, being slower than the normal hyper generators etc.

Jonathan_S wrote:

lyonheart wrote:Hi N7AXW,

It's apparent strategic purpose doesn't seem to have a tactical dimension as I mentioned in my first post.

The streak drive permits 50% faster travel in hyper, reaching the Kappa band with an apparent normal space velocity of 4500C, about 12.3 LY/day, my curiosity is wondering about potential tactical limitations, being slower than the normal hyper generators etc.

Hmm, when I tried to figure out the streak drive speed I got ended up closer to 4350C; 45% faster travel. (But I was getting the minimum speed it could be based on the text-ev)

But if you go all the way up to 50% faster it doesn't fit the transit time from MoH as well. "the voyage from New Tuscany to Mesa, which would have taken anyone else the next best thing to forty-five T-days, had taken Anisimovna less than thirty-one - MoH" Going up to 4500C cuts that to 30 days exactly; which while less than 31 is unlikely to be phrased that way.

Of course 45% faster is 31 days on the nose, so likely it's between that 45% and 50%; but based on the text I'd guess closer to 45%.

Relax wrote:Lyonheart:

You have brought up an issue I have been wondering about for many years. (Tried calculating travel times around a system for instance or between systems and there is this gigantic void at step number 1)

Other than the limitations, extrapolations, you have proposed, I have one more:

Brute force when commonly used refers to massive power applied. Generally speaking. Not difficult to accomplish, rather, $$$ intensive for operation.

*** We only know how long SLN SD's take to recharge ***

I would propose that total energy required is tied to mass and size of field. But how said energy is stored/discharged could easily vary depending on several factors. Streak drive could discharge its field much faster(higher power) than common designs.

1) More massive capacitors required for a quicker charge/discharge cycle

2) More massive power feed system required for a quicker charge

3) Efficiency of slower charging capacitors could be better(Fuel consumption) Or Capacitor density is superior.

4) MTBF of slower charging capacitors could be superior

5) All leads to: Cost of these faster dis/charging capacitors is more expensive

This leads to: How much $$$/mass a navy is going to designate as part of their ship design into the hyper generator instead of extra missiles, fuel for extended deployment etc.

I could easily see that DB boats have the $$$/Mass to dump into these superior hyper generator systems where Warships on the other hand have more pressing matters like Sidewall generators, CM's totals, MDM totals, along with patrol range before refueling. Especially when impeller drive ships have a semi-hard ceiling for tonnage. A spider ship on the other hand... does not.

dreamrider wrote:Where have you gotten the idea that MAlign starship tech is crude? It isn't addressed directly in textev at all. The indirect evidence (the Sharks, the ghost scouts, the very existence of the streak DBs, etc) tends to indicate somewhat the opposite, IMHO.

Further, in some of RFC's posts and pearls he has referred to the MAlign as one of the few star nations that is even within shouting distance of Manticore's starship technical achievements and quality. Probably not as good as Grayson, but maybe on a par with the Empire (and Haven.)

dreamrider

lyonheart wrote:Hi all,

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Given the crudity of MAlign starship tech, I think the former's more likely than the latter.

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Your insights are more than welcome.

L