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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by Weird Harold   » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:53 pm

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cthia wrote:I was always surprised that attempted assassinations in the technologically advanced Honorverse hasn't progressed beyond suicide by armsman or by Honor's finger. ...

Even modern day terrorists strap enough C-4 to their body to effect a blast radius that ensures the target's death and many collateral deaths as well.


I refer you to Crown of Slaves and the assassination that prompted the rest of the events in the book. (Masadans, at least, don't care about collateral damage.)
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:47 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
cthia wrote:I was always surprised that attempted assassinations in the technologically advanced Honorverse hasn't progressed beyond suicide by armsman or by Honor's finger. ...

Even modern day terrorists strap enough C-4 to their body to effect a blast radius that ensures the target's death and many collateral deaths as well.


I refer you to Crown of Slaves and the assassination that prompted the rest of the events in the book. (Masadans, at least, don't care about collateral damage.)

Indeed, there was also the complicated assassination attempt in the Endicott system involving the "moon stone?" which was actually a beacon. Nevertheless, I guess I'm simply gobsmacked that the old traditional tactics of assassination are still implemented, considering the fact that so much other technology simply has to be available and considering that treecats abound and also considering that I suspect that method has always been fraught with the lowest success rate. I suppose it boils down to the fact that one should expect more from the MA. I mean really, why incorporate such an archaic component - which serves as a weak link - intermixed with a pretty much unprecedented method of assassination? :shrug:

IF today's terrorists had the means and tech to surgically place the equivalent of a shitload-of-a-payload of C-4 inside of a terrorist, then people would be falling from the earth like flies all over the world, or at least their remains would be.

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:27 pm

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I don't know why, but a very humorous image flashed in the mind. Wouldn't it be hilarious if a treecat came into the range of Gustav Anderman and the will to bond hit it and the subsequent charge towards Gustav who isn't in the habit of having weapons near him? I wonder if the cat would be shot?

It would certainly be an emotionally charged moment.

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:16 pm

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Someone please tell me that textev bears witness to this speech somewhere and I just missed it. Regarding Cathy Montaigne...
wiki wrote:When she was young, she defended Commander Honor Harrington's actions in demolishing a Mesan slave depot in the Casimir System. Montaigne argued in the House of Lords that a Queen's officer who was actually enforcing the law should be commended, not criticized. (HHA3.3: FtH)

Her language and attitude was sufficiently disturbing that she was expelled from the House of Lords, largely for a speech she gave there, which was witnessed by a young Michael Oversteegen. Her speaking style was very effective and much less intemperate than might be expected from those who knew her and her nervous energy and inability to sit still when she was thinking; she earned the name "Prancer" from her friends in part for this and in part because she was tall and quite slender.

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by Theemile   » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:22 pm

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cthia wrote:Someone please tell me that textev bears witness to this speech somewhere and I just missed it. Regarding Cathy Montaigne...
wiki wrote:When she was young, she defended Commander Honor Harrington's actions in demolishing a Mesan slave depot in the Casimir System. Montaigne argued in the House of Lords that a Queen's officer who was actually enforcing the law should be commended, not criticized. (HHA3.3: FtH)

Her language and attitude was sufficiently disturbing that she was expelled from the House of Lords, largely for a speech she gave there, which was witnessed by a young Michael Oversteegen. Her speaking style was very effective and much less intemperate than might be expected from those who knew her and her nervous energy and inability to sit still when she was thinking; she earned the name "Prancer" from her friends in part for this and in part because she was tall and quite slender.


The actual speech is offsceen, but the above comments are spread through Flint's works. and then David's works starting with WoH. It was first Mentioned in "From the Highlands" where we meet Montaign. The Oversteengen parts are from "Crown of Slaves". The speech itself happens between the happenings of "Let's Dance" and before Honor is Assigned to AAC and the Crusher just prior to "On Basilisk Station."
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