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All you need are Nike BCL
Post by Lord Skimper   » Fri May 16, 2014 9:43 am

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The smaller craft outside the truly small LAC and Frigates, need no longer exist in the RMN / IMN.

The Nike or a Nike II would replace any of the smaller ships. It already can do anything any of the smaller ships can do and do it better, even the Kammerling offers nothing that the Nike can't do better.

Nike II would have a slightly different hammerhead with a single armoured hatch with a single carried Frigate one per end.

A Single Nike is capable of projecting enough power to dominate any system. With a pair of Frigates it is more that the equal of any smaller ships. Being able to be in several places and to jump to hyperspace and meet up elsewhere later.

Operating alone it equals a small squadron of DD even Roland in pairs a Nike II is a small 6 ship squadron that can do anything. That any smaller ship can do.

With less than 600 crew in a two ship squadron the crew requirements are also less than a trio of Saganami C and Quad Roland. Carries more missiles and is much more intimidating.
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Re: All you need are Nike BCL
Post by JimHacker   » Fri May 16, 2014 9:58 am

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Lord Skimper wrote:The smaller craft outside the truly small LAC and Frigates, need no longer exist in the RMN / IMN.

The Nike or a Nike II would replace any of the smaller ships. It already can do anything any of the smaller ships can do and do it better, even the Kammerling offers nothing that the Nike can't do better.

Nike II would have a slightly different hammerhead with a single armoured hatch with a single carried Frigate one per end.

A Single Nike is capable of projecting enough power to dominate any system. With a pair of Frigates it is more that the equal of any smaller ships. Being able to be in several places and to jump to hyperspace and meet up elsewhere later.

Operating alone it equals a small squadron of DD even Roland in pairs a Nike II is a small 6 ship squadron that can do anything. That any smaller ship can do.

With less than 600 crew in a two ship squadron the crew requirements are also less than a trio of Saganami C and Quad Roland. Carries more missiles and is much more intimidating.


The advantage of a trio of Saganami Cs however is that they can be in 3 totally different places.
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Re: All you need are Nike BCL
Post by Potato   » Fri May 16, 2014 10:00 am

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Do not engage with Skimper. It is a gigantic waste of your time and does bad things to your blood pressure. Just ignore him.
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Re: All you need are Nike BCL
Post by Chyort   » Fri May 16, 2014 10:08 am

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Lord Skimper wrote:The smaller craft outside the truly small LAC and Frigates, need no longer exist in the RMN / IMN.

The Nike or a Nike II would replace any of the smaller ships. It already can do anything any of the smaller ships can do and do it better, even the Kammerling offers nothing that the Nike can't do better.

Nike II would have a slightly different hammerhead with a single armoured hatch with a single carried Frigate one per end.

A Single Nike is capable of projecting enough power to dominate any system. With a pair of Frigates it is more that the equal of any smaller ships. Being able to be in several places and to jump to hyperspace and meet up elsewhere later.

Operating alone it equals a small squadron of DD even Roland in pairs a Nike II is a small 6 ship squadron that can do anything. That any smaller ship can do.

With less than 600 crew in a two ship squadron the crew requirements are also less than a trio of Saganami C and Quad Roland. Carries more missiles and is much more intimidating.


Frigates stashed inside nikes... :lol: Why even bother with frigates if your going to transport them around inside a nike? why waste the space on a hyper generator they will ideally never use?

Much better to just tractor a bunch of LAC's to the hull and deploy them as needed. :roll:

Frigates are not coming back to the honorverse outside something like the torch navy where they are mostly training ships. Where they flat out dont have the trained manpower yet to opperate a DD or some other equally obscure small system reason. That has been stated 100 billion times.

Why waste time on a troll post about stashing them inside nikes :P
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Re: All you need are Nike BCL
Post by Weird Harold   » Fri May 16, 2014 11:56 am

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Lord Skimper wrote:The Nike or a Nike II would replace any of the smaller ships. It already can do anything any of the smaller ships can do and do it better, ...


The one thing a Nike BC(L) can't do better than a LAC is be expendable. :roll: It also has just a bit of trouble being in up to a hundred places at once.
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Re: All you need are Nike BCL
Post by JimHacker   » Fri May 16, 2014 12:42 pm

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Potato wrote:Do not engage with Skimper. It is a gigantic waste of your time and does bad things to your blood pressure. Just ignore him.


I know. I confess that I responded for amusement rather than rational debate. :twisted:
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Re: All you need are Nike BCL
Post by Lord Skimper   » Fri May 16, 2014 2:56 pm

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OK I suppose you could just mount the frigate in place of a keyhole platform. Given nobody likes flying around in a frigate, unless they have to.

LAC have problems mainly they can't move around a system fast. Plus you can't leave them behind. A frigate you can Leave behind or send for additional help.

One or two frigates in place of one or both keyhole.

The Nike BCL has a small crew comparable to older DD CL. With a frigate or two they can do anything DD or CL or CA can do.

One wonders if a frigate could mount a weapon that cannot be named?
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Re: All you need are Nike BCL
Post by J6P   » Fri May 16, 2014 3:27 pm

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Lord Skimper wrote:OK I suppose you could just mount the frigate in place of a keyhole platform. Given nobody likes flying around in a frigate, unless they have to.

LAC have problems mainly they can't move around a system fast. Plus you can't leave them behind. A frigate you can Leave behind or send for additional help.

One or two frigates in place of one or both keyhole.

The Nike BCL has a small crew comparable to older DD CL. With a frigate or two they can do anything DD or CL or CA can do.

One wonders if a frigate could mount a weapon that cannot be named?


But where do you house your Spinxian 6 legged squirrels as your boarding action heros? Surely this demands at least a DN or SD frame. After all those Squirrels require those sweet curved mirrors that reflect their own image making themselves look much more impressive in their own eyes.
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Re: All you need are Nike BCL
Post by SWM   » Fri May 16, 2014 4:29 pm

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Lord Skimper wrote:OK I suppose you could just mount the frigate in place of a keyhole platform. Given nobody likes flying around in a frigate, unless they have to.

LAC have problems mainly they can't move around a system fast. Plus you can't leave them behind. A frigate you can Leave behind or send for additional help.

One or two frigates in place of one or both keyhole.

The Nike BCL has a small crew comparable to older DD CL. With a frigate or two they can do anything DD or CL or CA can do.

One wonders if a frigate could mount a weapon that cannot be named?

Skimper, I hope you realize that a frigate is quite a bit larger than a Keyhole? By my estimate, a frigate is at least three times longer than a Keyhole. It is longer than a superdreadnought hammerhead.

RFC has stated quite definitively that you cannot mount a grav lance in anything smaller than a destroyer.
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Re: All you need are Nike BCL
Post by tootall   » Fri May 16, 2014 4:41 pm

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RFC has stated quite definitively that you cannot mount a grav lance in anything smaller than a destroyer.

When I get to be a Fleet Admiral-am I allowed to say those words?
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