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Re: Honorverse Long Range Exploration?
Post by JohnRoth   » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:16 pm

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We know of 6 junctions, one of which (Felix) is still secret, plus one anomaly (the Twins) and one possible (Katherina).

The junctions are:

1. Manticore. 7 termini, one (Beowulf) in the league.

2. Erewhon 2 termini, one in the league

3. Asgerd 2 termini, both outside of the league

4. Felix (currently secret) 4 termini, none of which are known.

5. Visigoth (in the League) 2 termini one of which might be in the League.

6. Yildun (in the Shell) 2 termini, destinations unknown

7. Katherina (might be a junction, might not. The textev is ambiguous)
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Re: Honorverse Long Range Exploration?
Post by SYED   » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:07 am

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I think there are around 200 wormholes out there, if only a few in the league, then i bet they mainly link verge areas and beyond.
While the military ships are blockading, they can map the terminii as much as possible, the raw data might be very valuable to scientists.
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Re: Honorverse Long Range Exploration?
Post by KNick   » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:47 am

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SYED wrote:I think there are around 200 wormholes out there, if only a few in the league, then i bet they mainly link verge areas and beyond.
While the military ships are blockading, they can map the terminii as much as possible, the raw data might be very valuable to scientists.


I doubt that there are that many wormholes out there. Dozens, possibly. We do not know if RMN or RHN ships routinely record the necessary sensor data in a new star system (or for that matter, an old one) to determine if the star has an attached wormhole. We also do not know if searching for a wormhole is a standard part of determining if a habitable planet is viable for colonization. How specialized is the equipment necessary to determine that fact? From Torch of Freedom, we know that the only reason that Harvest Joy was at Torch was because there was a rumor that there was a wormhole. Dr. Kare stated that the signs were there, but they were hard to see. If that is the case, there could be other wormholes equally hidden, waiting for a ship with the right equipment to come along.
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Re: Honorverse Long Range Exploration?
Post by drothgery   » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:57 am

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KNick wrote:
SYED wrote:I think there are around 200 wormholes out there, if only a few in the league, then i bet they mainly link verge areas and beyond.
While the military ships are blockading, they can map the terminii as much as possible, the raw data might be very valuable to scientists.


I doubt that there are that many wormholes out there.
Out there as in 'mapped by humans', probably not. However, human-occupied space is a fairly small portion of one galaxy in the Honorverse.
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Re: Honorverse Long Range Exploration?
Post by SWM   » Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:05 pm

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KNick wrote:I doubt that there are that many wormholes out there. Dozens, possibly. We do not know if RMN or RHN ships routinely record the necessary sensor data in a new star system (or for that matter, an old one) to determine if the star has an attached wormhole. We also do not know if searching for a wormhole is a standard part of determining if a habitable planet is viable for colonization. How specialized is the equipment necessary to determine that fact? From Torch of Freedom, we know that the only reason that Harvest Joy was at Torch was because there was a rumor that there was a wormhole. Dr. Kare stated that the signs were there, but they were hard to see. If that is the case, there could be other wormholes equally hidden, waiting for a ship with the right equipment to come along.

As I recall, they knew for a fact that there was a wormhole in the Visigoth system. They just didn't know where it went, and didn't have Manpower's data on exactly where it was.
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Re: Honorverse Long Range Exploration?
Post by KNick   » Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:39 pm

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SWM wrote:As I recall, they knew for a fact that there was a wormhole in the Visigoth system. They just didn't know where it went, and didn't have Manpower's data on exactly where it was.


Visigoth has a Junction of it's own. But yes, the government of Torch knew there was a wormhole in the system, but they did not know where it was. The data on it's location had never been entered into a database that ended up in the governments hands (or was scrubbed before it was captured). Harvest Joy had to re-locate and then survey the wormhole before transit.
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Re: Honorverse Long Range Exploration?
Post by Bill Woods   » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:08 pm

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KNick wrote:
SYED wrote:I think there are around 200 wormholes out there, if only a few in the league, then i bet they mainly link verge areas and beyond.
While the military ships are blockading, they can map the terminii as much as possible, the raw data might be very valuable to scientists.


I doubt that there are that many wormholes out there. Dozens, possibly. We do not know if RMN or RHN ships routinely record the necessary sensor data in a new star system (or for that matter, an old one) to determine if the star has an attached wormhole. We also do not know if searching for a wormhole is a standard part of determining if a habitable planet is viable for colonization. How specialized is the equipment necessary to determine that fact? From Torch of Freedom, we know that the only reason that Harvest Joy was at Torch was because there was a rumor that there was a wormhole. Dr. Kare stated that the signs were there, but they were hard to see. If that is the case, there could be other wormholes equally hidden, waiting for a ship with the right equipment to come along.
The rumor was that the wormhole connected to a junction:
"Especially given the persistent rumors before the liberation that Torch was 'at least' a three-nexii junction. What you've just told us certainly agrees with everything official we've been able to find, but I can't find myself wondering where that specific number—three, I mean—came from in the first place."
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Re: Honorverse Long Range Exploration?
Post by SWM   » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:31 pm

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KNick wrote:
SWM wrote:As I recall, they knew for a fact that there was a wormhole in the Visigoth system. They just didn't know where it went, and didn't have Manpower's data on exactly where it was.


Visigoth has a Junction of it's own. But yes, the government of Torch knew there was a wormhole in the system, but they did not know where it was. The data on it's location had never been entered into a database that ended up in the governments hands (or was scrubbed before it was captured). Harvest Joy had to re-locate and then survey the wormhole before transit.

Yeah, sorry. I meant Verdant Vista/Congo, not Visigoth. :oops:
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