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Re: Is there a reason RFC is "against" AI in the Honorverse?
Post by markusschaber   » Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:55 pm

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tlb wrote:Note that both Path of the Fury and On Basilisk Station were published in 1992. So in one story he had a sentient computer and in the other computers were "underestimated" by him? How does that does make sense?


I think an author writing SciFi taking place in the future explicitly postulates some fictional elements, while everything else is more or less extrapolated from how our world could develop.

Possibly, in Path of the Fury, he wanted to write about sentient computers as fictional element - thus, he didn't need to extrapolate "real world" development. And in the Honorverse, his explicitly fictional elements are Gravitics, Hyperspace and Telepathic species, wereas e. G. the generation ships, or fields like biology/genetics or linguistics could be seen as "extrapolated" from real world development. Clearly, wine, beer and food are also "extrapolated" from the real world, given that people tend to eat and alcoholize whatever they find where they live.

Just inventing everything new without checking back on the real world just prevents him from writing interesting stories, and makes it hard for the readers to relate to the world, they're too busy with trying to interpret the strange world instead of concentrating with the story.
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Re: Is there a reason RFC is "against" AI in the Honorverse?
Post by tlb   » Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:23 pm

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markusschaber wrote:Clearly, wine, beer and food are also "extrapolated" from the real world, given that people tend to eat and alcoholize whatever they find where they live.

Just inventing everything new without checking back on the real world just prevents him from writing interesting stories, and makes it hard for the readers to relate to the world, they're too busy with trying to interpret the strange world instead of concentrating with the story.

Are you saying that The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings cannot be interesting stories because so little is extrapolated from the world where we live? I have not read Game of Thrones, but many people are very interested in the books and it appears its world also bears little similarity to ours.

I was only objecting to you saying that our author was underestimating computers, when a more likely explanation was that he wanted them to stay in the background.
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Re: Is there a reason RFC is "against" AI in the Honorverse?
Post by markusschaber   » Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:21 pm

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tlb wrote:
markusschaber wrote:Are you saying that The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings cannot be interesting stories because so little is extrapolated from the world where we live?


Quite some things are extrapolated from ancient and medieval live in european and mediterranean areas, for example.
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Re: Is there a reason RFC is "against" AI in the Honorverse?
Post by tlb   » Tue Feb 06, 2024 3:27 pm

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markusschaber wrote:Clearly, wine, beer and food are also "extrapolated" from the real world, given that people tend to eat and alcoholize whatever they find where they live.

Just inventing everything new without checking back on the real world just prevents him from writing interesting stories, and makes it hard for the readers to relate to the world, they're too busy with trying to interpret the strange world instead of concentrating with the story.

tlb wrote:Are you saying that The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings cannot be interesting stories because so little is extrapolated from the world where we live?

markusschaber wrote:Quite some things are extrapolated from ancient and medieval live in european and mediterranean areas, for example.

While true, ancient and medieval times are NOT the "real world" to just about anyone living today. So if you are saying that people do know about it from Literature, that is also true of Science Fiction; which seems to invalidate your point.
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