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Re: Cross posting update from RFC
Post by cthia   » Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:27 pm

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Theemile wrote:
cthia wrote:If there are indeed three more HV novels, I'll take that to mean... Ladies and gentlemen, this time we have a worthy adversary.

The first novel includes the lead up to finding the MA and the GA attacking Darius. The second novel includes the MA attacking the MBS, as they sent the GA packing on its first attack of their home system. The third novel features a rematch in Darius space.


My money is the Renaissance Faction muddies the waters, and forces a Solarian divide.

Before Flint died, Maya's succession would have been a serious part of the plot, not so sure now...

You got a point about the RF. If they're going to make an appearance they should be brought into play fairly quickly.

But they have to be careful not to get into a shooting match with the SL. That might have a negative reaction which results in the SL and the GA becoming allies.

Would the author spend a book mostly on the SL and its troubles with this new opponent that has coalesced from the Block of Splintered States? BOSS.

That would be a book with a completely different POV and feel. I know that isn't what you are suggesting. But the thought amuses me.

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Re: Cross posting update from RFC
Post by ThinksMarkedly   » Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:22 am

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cthia wrote:But they have to be careful not to get into a shooting match with the SL. That might have a negative reaction which results in the SL and the GA becoming allies.


As opposed to the state throughout the whole of TEiF? How is that any different?
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Re: Cross posting update from RFC
Post by Fireflair   » Tue Sep 13, 2022 12:37 am

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So glad to see you post here Jacob! I am very much enjoying your addition and collaboration with the MWW.

Be sure to keep up your own works too!

It's good to have the updated from MWW, and I hope that he can crank out the books he's listed right along with many more. But hopefully he will have all of the IPs and outlines worked out well in advance with the collaborators so that if the worst happens we readers will still get enjoy his genius afterward.
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Re: Cross posting update from RFC
Post by Fireflair   » Tue Sep 13, 2022 12:37 am

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So glad to see you post here Jacob! I am very much enjoying your addition and collaboration with the MWW.

Be sure to keep up your own works too!

It's good to have the updated from MWW, and I hope that he can crank out the books he's listed right along with many more. But hopefully he will have all of the IPs and outlines worked out well in advance with the collaborators so that if the worst happens we readers will still get enjoy his genius afterward.
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Re: Cross posting update from RFC
Post by cthia   » Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:01 am

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ThinksMarkedly wrote:
cthia wrote:But they have to be careful not to get into a shooting match with the SL. That might have a negative reaction which results in the SL and the GA becoming allies.


As opposed to the state throughout the whole of TEiF? How is that any different?

The RMN has never NOT been the main PoV.

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Re: Cross posting update from RFC
Post by tlb   » Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:53 am

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cthia wrote:But they have to be careful not to get into a shooting match with the SL. That might have a negative reaction which results in the SL and the GA becoming allies.

ThinksMarkedly wrote:As opposed to the state throughout the whole of TEiF? How is that any different?

cthia wrote:The RMN has never NOT been the main PoV.

No one is disputing that; but I think what was being stated was that the Solarian Navy is beginning to work with Torch and the GA in TEiF, so it might not require a shooting war for the SL and GA to reach an understanding or agreement, even if short of an alliance.
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Re: Cross posting update from RFC
Post by cthia   » Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:45 pm

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tlb wrote:
cthia wrote:But they have to be careful not to get into a shooting match with the SL. That might have a negative reaction which results in the SL and the GA becoming allies.

ThinksMarkedly wrote:As opposed to the state throughout the whole of TEiF? How is that any different?

cthia wrote:The RMN has never NOT been the main PoV.

No one is disputing that; but I think what was being stated was that the Solarian Navy is beginning to work with Torch and the GA in TEiF, so it might not require a shooting war for the SL and GA to reach an understanding or agreement, even if short of an alliance.

Understood. OTOH, if the SL and the BOSS get into a shooting match, it could fuel a weapons race akin to what happened in the Haven sector. That could be interesting considering the kind of tech that "the will to live" begets. Look out Haven sector. New weapons of mass destruction could be forged in another fiery furnace.

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Re: Cross posting update from RFC
Post by justdave   » Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:59 pm

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alas no mention on the Gunney Harrington novel
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Re: Cross posting update from RFC
Post by GregD   » Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:24 pm

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kzt wrote:
cthia wrote:The first novel includes the lead up to finding the MA and the GA attacking Darius. The second novel includes the MA attacking the MBS, as they sent the GA packing on its first attack of their home system. The third novel features a rematch in Darius space.

The first attack on Darius is a bloody fiasco as the vast majority of the GA fleet is obliterated by the waves of graser torpedoes.


At which point, every single bit of storyline they tried to create with Galton goes away.

Because if Darius has weapons that were used against the MA, and Galton didn't, then Darius was always running the fight.

So that means immediate war with the Andermani Empire, Selisia, The Star Empire, and the Republic of Haven, with the Solarian League all sitting on the sidelines or helping attack Darius (because it was the MAlign who got all their people killed fighting the Manties).

Not a winning strategy
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Re: Cross posting update from RFC
Post by kzt   » Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:31 pm

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At which point, every single bit of storyline they tried to create with Galton goes away.

Because if Darius has weapons that were used against the MA, and Galton didn't, then Darius was always running the fight.

So that means immediate war with the Andermani Empire, Selisia, The Star Empire, and the Republic of Haven, with the Solarian League all sitting on the sidelines or helping attack Darius (because it was the MAlign who got all their people killed fighting the Manties).

Not a winning strategy

If they find Darius it's game on. Nothing gets held back. There is no fallback position from there. And if Darius can obliterate the fleet that obliterated the SLN everyone is going to realize they are not to be trifled with.

What is the SLN going to do to a force that obliterated the RMN and RHN combined striking force? How long will it take to rebuild the entire RHN and RMN SD(P), LAC and escort fleet? How long to train hundreds of SD(P) crews? Note that SD captains, XOs and department heads and senior chiefs have at least 20 years of active service.

Are they then going to be happy to once more leap into the meat grinder if Darius hasn't managed to force the surrender of Manticore and Haven by the time they have the new fleet?
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