Insanity: Screening elements in the HV

Thanks for correcting that. I meant to say B-52 bomber escorts. I've got B-2 on the brain after watching a documentary. I wanted to know why they were called flying wings. No, they don't have escorts because of the stealth. And when we bombed the bunker in Iran they sent off two from their airbase in opposite directions as a misdirection.

But, because of their stealth, if they did have escorts it would be like escorting the LDs.

Anyway, why would it matter if the MAN's FTL platforms would be detected, as long as they can't be localized, like GR?

Knowing FTL platforms are operating in the system and localizing them, as well as the spiders they are communicating with is two very different balls of wax.

Other than a surprise attack, so after the battle has commenced.

penny wrote:Thanks for correcting that. I meant to say B-52 bomber escorts. I've got B-2 on the brain after watching a documentary. I wanted to know why they were called flying wings. No, they don't have escorts because of the stealth. And when we bombed the bunker in Iran they sent off two from their airbase in opposite directions as a misdirection.

But, because of their stealth, if they did have escorts it would be like escorting the LDs.

Anyway, why would it matter if the MAN's FTL platforms would be detected, as long as they can't be localized, like GR?

Knowing FTL platforms are operating in the system and localizing them, as well as the spiders they are communicating with is two very different balls of wax.

Other than a surprise attack, so after the battle has commenced.

Actually, the B-2 s had a close escort of F-35s into and through Iran during the recent Bombing mission, with a vanguard and overwatch of F-22s penetrating and flying top cover in the event the Iranians got a jet in the area. The F-35s were using their superior tactical sensors (and jammers) as a second layer of defense to actively negate defenses in case stealth didn't work.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/24/us/politics/b2-pilots-iran.html

The B-21s will have this capability (and the ability to fire air to air missiles) built in.

Back to the Honorverse - if FTL coms are detected, surprise is lost. Every ship will shortly be at action stations with active wedges and defenses - space stations will take "evasive maneuvers" and raise their defenses. Yeah, you don't know where they are or what they are saying, but you know "someone" you don't know is talking.

When I used to play paintball, I was later told by my opfor "friends" that they would listen for my deep bass rumble - even when I whisper, I tend to dump alot of energy at the bottom of the vocal range, they could hear the long waves from a few hundred feet out through the trees and brush - usually well before they could see me. They couldn't hear what I was saying, but they knew I was... there... And just knowing I was nearby changed how they maneuvered.

Theemile wrote:

penny wrote:Thanks for correcting that. I meant to say B-52 bomber escorts. I've got B-2 on the brain after watching a documentary. I wanted to know why they were called flying wings. No, they don't have escorts because of the stealth. And when we bombed the bunker in Iran they sent off two from their airbase in opposite directions as a misdirection.

But, because of their stealth, if they did have escorts it would be like escorting the LDs.

Anyway, why would it matter if the MAN's FTL platforms would be detected, as long as they can't be localized, like GR?

Knowing FTL platforms are operating in the system and localizing them, as well as the spiders they are communicating with is two very different balls of wax.

Other than a surprise attack, so after the battle has commenced.

Actually, the B-2 s had a close escort of F-35s into and through Iran during the recent Bombing mission, with a vanguard and overwatch of F-22s penetrating and flying top cover in the event the Iranians got a jet in the area. The F-35s were using their superior tactical sensors (and jammers) as a second layer of defense to actively negate defenses in case stealth didn't work.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/24/us/politics/b2-pilots-iran.html

The B-21s will have this capability (and the ability to fire air to air missiles) built in.

Back to the Honorverse - if FTL coms are detected, surprise is lost. Every ship will shortly be at action stations with active wedges and defenses - space stations will take "evasive maneuvers" and raise their defenses. Yeah, you don't know where they are or what they are saying, but you know "someone" you don't know is talking.

When I used to play paintball, I was later told by my opfor "friends" that they would listen for my deep bass rumble - even when I whisper, I tend to dump alot of energy at the bottom of the vocal range, they could hear the long waves from a few hundred feet out through the trees and brush - usually well before they could see me. They couldn't hear what I was saying, but they knew I was... there... And just knowing I was nearby changed how they maneuvered.

I was almost certain I heard Trump say that the F-35s had gotten back successfully. Anyway, I still meant to say B-52.

Indeed Theemile. The enemy would know someone is talking and the element of surprise would be gone. That is what I meant by the final statement, "Other than a surprise attack, it won't matter after the battle has commenced."