[SPOILERS] Now that the war is over . . .

cthia wrote:Can't just give her the Medal of Honor, that's already hers. LOL

Now you've done it. There needs to be a "mainline" Honorverse novel titled Mettle of Honor.

Peregrinator wrote:

cthia wrote:Can't just give her the Medal of Honor, that's already hers. LOL

Now you've done it. There needs to be a "mainline" Honorverse novel titled Mettle of Honor.

haha too true

cthia wrote:
Data from every command scattered about the galaxy should also be collected. Give the many Youngs and Santinos who're simply out and about twiddling their thumbs while circling the planet something constructive to do.

Trusting those types of people to do this with the required reliability may not be the brightest idea. They would, most likely, just falsify some data and keep on twiddling.

The formal war with the SLN is ended- sort of. Now we get to see the Post-War and what happens after, particularly what the SL Assembly does with the new Constitution and what kind of backlash comes from the litteraly millions of people are going to be unhappy (vastly, passionately, deeply) with the outcome, kind of like the American South at the end of the American Civil War.
Then there are all those trans-stellar companies who's rice bowls have just been shattered. Lots of bad feeling there.
So we also have the Alignment who is still hiding in the shadows though their existence has been confirmed (to those who want to keep their heads in the sand or other reasons) which is a war not even begun to fight on the side of the GA. Oh, they want to fight it but firsst they have to find the enemy and some solid targets to hit.
Messy, very messy.

Brigade XO wrote:The formal war with the SLN is ended- sort of. Now we get to see the Post-War and what happens after, particularly what the SL Assembly does with the new Constitution and what kind of backlash comes from the litteraly millions of people are going to be unhappy (vastly, passionately, deeply) with the outcome, kind of like the American South at the end of the American Civil War.
Then there are all those trans-stellar companies who's rice bowls have just been shattered. Lots of bad feeling there.
So we also have the Alignment who is still hiding in the shadows though their existence has been confirmed (to those who want to keep their heads in the sand or other reasons) which is a war not even begun to fight on the side of the GA. Oh, they want to fight it but firsst they have to find the enemy and some solid targets to hit.
Messy, very messy.

I will say only that most of the average citizens of the SL won't have any particular bone to pick with the GA once the true history of the war comes out and the new constitution has time to settle in. There will be individual star systems --- especially the Sol System, itself --- which will obviously feel very aggrieved. "Hey! Just because the SLN killed fifty or sixty million of your citizens and did trillions of credits of damage to completely neutral systems, that was no reason to come bust up our stuff! We didn't do nuffin to youse guys! It was them nasty old Mandarins, so why you wanna go and pick on us? Meanies! An' we're gonna get even, too --- so there!" The fact that Honor didn't kill one single person (civilian or military)in her entire incursion into the Sol System won't mean a solitary damn to them any more than it would to any other entitled bunch of people. Their problem is going to be the new constitution, which won't let Terra-based cliques run the entire League any longer (and the entrenched bureaucrats, lobbyists, and pressure groups are gonna hate that!) The rest of the League is actually likely to come out of it figuring Sol got what it deserved (after all, all those other systems certainly aren't going to blame themselves for it!), and once they figure out how much better they like the new constitution, they're probably going to figure it makes a lot more sense to do business with the SEM and the RH than it does to beat any dead equines.

Now, you're durn tooting those folks whose rice bowls just got smashed are gonna want revenge, but their power's just been pretty drastically trimmed back. A lot of them are likely to want to fish in the Sol System itself when all the reconstruction contracts come through, of course, but most of them are going to be brooding over all they've lost. At the same time, most of them are business people. They may hate the Manties from here to Hell and back, but business is business . . . at least as long as they don't get caught.


Things are going to be messiest in the ex-Protectorates and among the newly independent star systems, and there's going to be plenty of troubled water for ambitious fishermen to chuck sticks of dynamite into where those areas are concerned. Absent machinations of the MA, however, it's unlikely any of them are going to pose existential threats to the GA's members.

Dauntless wrote:not touching the first question.

second as to visiting sphinx and home. well home now is White Haven, with her hunsband, wife and kids.

also she is a very busy woman and often advises the queen on important things so getting time to return the Sphinx is hard.

I suspect when her parents & siblings return to the freehold for the first time she will go with them for at least a visit. don't forget while the freehold is intact it was on the same side of the planet as the Yawatta strike. the largest real city to the freehold was wiped out, hence why she lost much family. I can see returning there being very hard.

If she ever gets chance to retire I wonder if she will convince Hamish and Emily to move to sphinx for a couple of years. let the kids run wild with the treecat Nannies and the rest of the clan. get some distance from the admiralty and QE3, though that may be tricky if Hamish is still first lord and the heavier grav might cause emily problems.

Hmm, Well Honour is taking an extended leave from the RMN with Q.E's approval. So yes I bet some of her time will be spent on Grayson. I suspect that Hamish would go with her as well. Still I suspect a lot of that is going to have to be off camera as it were while other characters pick up the slack and carry on the War.

So what next ? "Searching the Shadows" ? i.e. a book covering the actions of the Ghost Hunters on Earth and the trio on Mesa as they try to hunt out the MA? As with the other Shadows series books Honour would be no more than a side reference but we should see Helen get back to Tactical Track and Miss Owens get her first GSN posting (with lots of room for conflicts there with more traditional Grayson Officers - would "Owens steadholders be more defferential perhaps ? :-> not to mention her developing love life coming into conflict with the more restrictive Grayson culture). I've seen lots of suggestions on how to find the MA but nothing says they have to be found yet.

I look forward to this one what ever the actual title but meanwhile we have "House of Lies" and the "Darkfall" stories and the next T. Long book to see as well.

Captain Golding wrote:

Dauntless wrote:not touching the first question.

second as to visiting sphinx and home. well home now is White Haven, with her hunsband, wife and kids.

also she is a very busy woman and often advises the queen on important things so getting time to return the Sphinx is hard.

I suspect when her parents & siblings return to the freehold for the first time she will go with them for at least a visit. don't forget while the freehold is intact it was on the same side of the planet as the Yawatta strike. the largest real city to the freehold was wiped out, hence why she lost much family. I can see returning there being very hard.

If she ever gets chance to retire I wonder if she will convince Hamish and Emily to move to sphinx for a couple of years. let the kids run wild with the treecat Nannies and the rest of the clan. get some distance from the admiralty and QE3, though that may be tricky if Hamish is still first lord and the heavier grav might cause emily problems.

Hmm, Well Honour is taking an extended leave from the RMN with Q.E's approval. So yes I bet some of her time will be spent on Grayson. I suspect that Hamish would go with her as well. Still I suspect a lot of that is going to have to be off camera as it were while other characters pick up the slack and carry on the War.

So what next ? "Searching the Shadows" ? i.e. a book covering the actions of the Ghost Hunters on Earth and the trio on Mesa as they try to hunt out the MA? As with the other Shadows series books Honour would be no more than a side reference but we should see Helen get back to Tactical Track and Miss Owens get her first GSN posting (with lots of room for conflicts there with more traditional Grayson Officers - would "Owens steadholders be more defferential perhaps ? :-> not to mention her developing love life coming into conflict with the more restrictive Grayson culture). I've seen lots of suggestions on how to find the MA but nothing says they have to be found yet.

I look forward to this one what ever the actual title but meanwhile we have "House of Lies" and the "Darkfall" stories and the next T. Long book to see as well.

But how long do we have to wait to get our grubby little paws on them????

runsforcelery wrote:...
The fact that Honor didn't kill one single person (civilian or military)in her entire incursion into the Sol System won't mean a solitary damn to them any more than it would to any other entitled bunch of people.

Spoiler warning!!! Don't read on if you haven't read the eARC!



I mean it!!!

Unless you've changed this scene, she did indeed kill some military people:

“Admiral,” he said very carefully, “the main platforms didn’t take a single hit. We lost two destroyers and a heavy cruiser, but I think that was a mistake in their targeting.”

“A mistake?” Pataloeshti repeated.

“Yes, Sir—a mistake. They didn’t hit any of our other active ships, and with all those battlecruisers and superdreadnoughts in orbit, I don’t see how they could have missed them all unless they’d tried really hard.”

That should be 1,000+ people dead, IIRC.

GregD wrote:

runsforcelery wrote:...
The fact that Honor didn't kill one single person (civilian or military)in her entire incursion into the Sol System won't mean a solitary damn to them any more than it would to any other entitled bunch of people.

Spoiler warning!!! Don't read on if you haven't read the eARC!



I mean it!!!

Unless you've changed this scene, she did indeed kill some military people:

“Admiral,” he said very carefully, “the main platforms didn’t take a single hit. We lost two destroyers and a heavy cruiser, but I think that was a mistake in their targeting.”

“A mistake?” Pataloeshti repeated.

“Yes, Sir—a mistake. They didn’t hit any of our other active ships, and with all those battlecruisers and superdreadnoughts in orbit, I don’t see how they could have missed them all unless they’d tried really hard.”

That should be 1,000+ people dead, IIRC.

Oh, all right!

So I forgot about them. But, seriously? A thousand or so when the SLN death toll was already somewhere north of 2,000,000?

I'll grant you I should have remembered them, but it doesn't change my original point, smartass!

Bad, GregD! No cookie!

runsforcelery wrote:I'll grant you I should have remembered them, but it doesn't change my original point, smartass!

Bad, GregD! No cookie!

That's ok, with the size of my "waist", I don't need any cookies.