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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by runsforcelery   » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:49 am

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Lord Skimper wrote:The British Empire isn't an official or wasn't an official title. It was merely a meansofrefering to the whole political influence of the United Kingdom.

One might be the empress of thisarea queen of that, but when one is called Empress of all of it, one becomes the Empress of the Empire. The older lesser titles are supplanted by the new title. The barony of something navy gets absorbed into the Royal and later Imperial navy. It is still on a regimental level the barony of something naval unit. But it is part of the Royal or later Imperial Navy.

The SEM is now the Star Empire of Manticore. With an Empress. She may still be a Queen and a Princess and Lady and a Duchess and a Baronette but she is refered to as Empress. Not Duchess or Princess nor Queen. Empress.

Likewise the old Royal Manticorian Navy is now the Imperial Navy of Manticore. There still could be a Queens Own Regiment or a Royal Home Fleet. But the navy should, if follows any precedent, be called, now the Imperial Navy of Manticore or Imperial Manticorian Navy or Manticorian Imperial Navy.

This might not he a big deal with the small fry Navy it currently has. But once the Silesian and Talbott forces start producing units and crew your going to have Imperial Navy of the SEM and Royal Navy of the RMN. The RMN being the smallest of the systems. 1 system 2 stars 3 planets. Vs Talbott 15 systems, maybe more, 15+ stars 15+ planets. Not a kingdom but an Empire. Not the navy of a kingdom but the Navy of an Empire.

I know you are stuck in your way but you all claim not to be the conservatives, I would be a conservative. Yet your all so Conservative you can't see the Verse changing around you!

Silesia is not has never been and never will be part of the Kingdom of Manticore. It will be producing its own shops and its own crews and with 34 systems who knows how many stars and planets and the Imperial Navy will be 10-20 times the size of the Royal old navy of the Manticore system replaced with the rest of the Empire and its Empress Elizabeth the I. Not Queen. Not Royal Navy, Imperial Navy.

If you follow the process of and set titles of the Aristocrats then the RMN is now the IMN. If you just make something up then your Empress might have to bow to the visiting Earl of ...... With his Mighty fleet of Talbot MFT and the Baron of Silesia who has the Teutonic Navy the STN.

Or the RMN the MFT and the STN is now all IMN!

So stuck in the past you can't see the future.



This is the biggest hunk of nonsense I've seen in a long, long time. Do you actually read the books, or make it up as you go along? I only ask because you seem to fantasize your own solutions to problems --- frequently problems you invent as you go along --- which makes me wonder why I bothered to write the story in the first place. :roll:

In case you haven't figured it out, I write the books and I pretty much totally disagree with everything you've just said. In fact, there's so much wrong in this post that there is absolutely no point in trying to explain what it all is. :roll: :geek:

I'm tired enough at the moment to be cranky, :evil: but still . . .


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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by pokermind   » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:08 am

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Speaking of writing, how is the new Honor Harrington book coming? Will Mike get catted? I can see her new treecat guardian interacting with Dicey the Maine Coon Terrain cat, <You no steal doughnut stupid four-leg!> :lol:

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This is the biggest hunk of nonsense I've seen in a long, long time. Do you actually read the books, or make it up as you go along? I only ask because you seem to fantasize your own solutions to problems --- frequently problems you invent as you go along --- which makes me wonder why I bothered to write the story in the first place. :roll:

In case you haven't figured it out, I write the books and I pretty much totally disagree with everything you've just said. In fact, there's so much wrong in this post that there is absolutely no point in trying to explain what it all is. :roll: :geek:

I'm tired enough at the moment to be cranky, :evil: but still . . .
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by KNick   » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:03 pm

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roseandheather wrote:
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Blood pressure, Duckk, blood pressure. This is simply one of his circular file posts.


And this distinguishes it from all the others by...

:lol:


Every once in a while (about 1 post in twenty), he gets something close enough to right that one of the truly knowledgeable people such as SWM or Relax or drothgery decide to try to point out his errors. When they do, I learn a lot. As for the other nineteen, 3 are burn before reading, four go in the rectangular file, 1 goes in the possible jokes file and the other eleven are simply for the circular file. I read his posts for the two possibly good ones (the joke file and the one that draws a response).
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by drothgery   » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:22 pm

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KNick wrote:Every once in a while (about 1 post in twenty), he gets something close enough to right that one of the truly knowledgeable people such as SWM or Relax or drothgery...
Heh.
I have Skimper ignored; if I respond to anything he says, it's in a quote.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Amaroq   » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:30 pm

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I might be wandering into areas that might be uncomfortable for some but I hope it won't be too bad. I always had some question about prolong and reproduction. Specifically, how it affects female reproductive biology. Being a woman myself I wondered how prolong deals with the subjects of menstruation, fertility, menopause, etc...

It mainly came into focus with Honor's unexpected pregnancy and how she couldn't have known that her implant expired. I understand about not thinking to check medical records and paperwork but if the implant altered certain aspects of female reproductive biology than the reversion back to a "normal" state after it expired would probably have been recognizable (after all, a period is not exactly something you don't notice having). Considering that women don't continually produce eggs the way men produce sperm it would be interesting to figure out how prolong extends (or doesn't as the case may be) a woman's fertile years into the 100s (as evidenced by Allison's successful pregnancy).

I hope I haven't squicked too many people out. :D
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by roseandheather   » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:42 pm

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Amaroq wrote:I might be wandering into areas that might be uncomfortable for some but I hope it won't be too bad. I always had some question about prolong and reproduction. Specifically, how it affects female reproductive biology. Being a woman myself I wondered how prolong deals with the subjects of menstruation, fertility, menopause, etc...

It mainly came into focus with Honor's unexpected pregnancy and how she couldn't have known that her implant expired. I understand about not thinking to check medical records and paperwork but if the implant altered certain aspects of female reproductive biology than the reversion back to a "normal" state after it expired would probably have been recognizable (after all, a period is not exactly something you don't notice having). Considering that women don't continually produce eggs the way men produce sperm it would be interesting to figure out how prolong extends (or doesn't as the case may be) a woman's fertile years into the 100s (as evidenced by Allison's successful pregnancy).

I hope I haven't squicked too many people out. :D


"Grayson Navy Letters Home" mentions 'menstrual control nanites', which presumably do exactly what they say they do and sound like a gift from angels above.

I haven't really considered the issue too thoroughly, but presumably a tremendous increase in a woman's ability to control her fertility has rendered 'accidents' of the type Honor dealt with nearly unheard-of - after all, she had to die to have that sort of slip-up happen to her. I would also assume, therefore, that a woman can control when she ovulates, and can I move to the Honorverse now?
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by KNick   » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:56 pm

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drothgery wrote:
KNick wrote:Every once in a while (about 1 post in twenty), he gets something close enough to right that one of the truly knowledgeable people such as SWM or Relax or drothgery...
Heh.
I have Skimper ignored; if I respond to anything he says, it's in a quote.


It was very probably exactly that. Or else you were responding to a statement by someone else in one of his threads. Either way, you are one of the many knowledgeable people whose posts are worth reading.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by Amaroq   » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:50 pm

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roseandheather wrote:
"Grayson Navy Letters Home" mentions 'menstrual control nanites', which presumably do exactly what they say they do and sound like a gift from angels above.

I haven't really considered the issue too thoroughly, but presumably a tremendous increase in a woman's ability to control her fertility has rendered 'accidents' of the type Honor dealt with nearly unheard-of - after all, she had to die to have that sort of slip-up happen to her. I would also assume, therefore, that a woman can control when she ovulates, and can I move to the Honorverse now?


I read "Grayson Navy Letters Home" but only once and so I didn't recall the mention of menstrual control nanites. You're right. I wonder if they help control ovulation because that's the only way to potentially extend a woman's fertility to match the increased lifespan she will have with prolong.

I'm with you Rose. Not having to deal with any of that feminine stuff that pesky biology dumps on you would be great. Like, really, really great.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by SWM   » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:10 pm

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Amaroq wrote:
roseandheather wrote:
"Grayson Navy Letters Home" mentions 'menstrual control nanites', which presumably do exactly what they say they do and sound like a gift from angels above.

I haven't really considered the issue too thoroughly, but presumably a tremendous increase in a woman's ability to control her fertility has rendered 'accidents' of the type Honor dealt with nearly unheard-of - after all, she had to die to have that sort of slip-up happen to her. I would also assume, therefore, that a woman can control when she ovulates, and can I move to the Honorverse now?


I read "Grayson Navy Letters Home" but only once and so I didn't recall the mention of menstrual control nanites. You're right. I wonder if they help control ovulation because that's the only way to potentially extend a woman's fertility to match the increased lifespan she will have with prolong.

I'm with you Rose. Not having to deal with any of that feminine stuff that pesky biology dumps on you would be great. Like, really, really great.

I am far from an expert on this, but I have heard that the limitation on a woman's fertility is not because they run out of eggs. From what I understand, most women have enough eggs to be fertile for a hundred years or more, if their bodies let them.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by roseandheather   » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:26 pm

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SWM wrote:I am far from an expert on this, but I have heard that the limitation on a woman's fertility is not because they run out of eggs. From what I understand, most women have enough eggs to be fertile for a hundred years or more, if their bodies let them.


Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!

During their natural lifetimes, women release only a fraction of the eggs they are born with. Even tripling the woman's lifespan - and therefore her fertile years - wouldn't put a woman in danger of running out of eggs. Especially when combined with other measures that can control the reproductive cycle.

The issues I would be most wary of are simple wear-and-tear on the reproductive organs. Pregnancy is a stressful process even under ideal conditions, and while tubing eliminates most of the life-or-death risks associated with it, for those who carry their pregnancies to term without tubing - like Allison Harrington - there is still a certain amount of stress put on the uterus.
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