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Re: Who would make a good Honor Harrington in a Movie/TV rol
Post by Uroboros   » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:06 am

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John Prigent wrote:I think we've had textev that post-diaspora humans are a mixture of races with varying 'colours', and that Manties are even more of a mixture. So what's the predominant 'colour' in the RMN? We know that Grayson was largely settled by mid-west Americans so the assumption has to be that most of them were 'white' with a few others. Manticorans seem more varied, from 'pure white' to 'pure black' plus everything in between. So does it really matter, apart from defined lead characters whose appearance has been described, what colours are in the cast?

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jchilds wrote:Here's another thing to consider when casting Honor.

ATM, we're seeing some pretty big Hollywood movies going out of their way to include or even add content to appeal to movie-goers in China/Asia (and their wallets).

So leaving her ethnic background intact for the movies might just be a good idea, provided you can find a good actress that looks the part.

It's a somewhat crass argument, true, but that doesn't mean it's a bad one.


Partially, from an artistic standpoint. You don't want anything too distracting on screen, so having a hodgepodge of skin tones and flavors isn't a great idea. However, it's decently easy to get around.

The easiest way to actually get around this is ala Battlestar: Dark lighting, limit the characters on screen. Almost anyone on screen actually had a good reason to be there, there wasn't too many extras doing random busywork. One thing I hated about Star Trek (TNG was especially bad about this) is there was always some random guy in the back that apparently really had to do that astrological survey during the pitched battle with the Klingons or Romulans or the Borg. There was always people just walking around with no real reason for being there.
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Re: Who would make a good Honor Harrington in a Movie/TV rol
Post by Werrf   » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:17 am

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Uroboros wrote:Partially, from an artistic standpoint. You don't want anything too distracting on screen, so having a hodgepodge of skin tones and flavors isn't a great idea. However, it's decently easy to get around.

VERY strongly disagree on this. How is a mixture of ethnicities 'distracting'? It's a major theme in the Honorverse, especially after the introduction of Manpower - race is essentially dead.
Uroboros wrote:The easiest way to actually get around this is ala Battlestar: Dark lighting, limit the characters on screen. Almost anyone on screen actually had a good reason to be there, there wasn't too many extras doing random busywork.

Oh, gods, please no. I'm pretty sure Battlestar had that dark lighting to try to get more advertising from antidepressant manufacturers.

We have textev that a bridge is a pretty crowded place. Each department is manned by two or more people, and they share information rapidly. A tiny, cramped bridge with two people on it is not going to work.
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Re: Who would make a good Honor Harrington in a Movie/TV rol
Post by Uroboros   » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:46 am

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It can be very distracting. I am not saying make everyone white or black or honestly anything, but if there's too many different people wandering around with really interesting looks and colors (and there are a lot of them!), are you going to be paying attention to the story, or to the really cute noncom manning with the board behind the captain?

And, I am not saying go full Battlestar. It was depressing, but it worked for that series. Just turn down the lighting just a little bit, so the contrast isn't quite so noticeable. Extras aren't really there to be noticed, anyhow.

For example, I can't tell you where anything is on the bridge of the new Star Trek series. I could point out everything on the previous ones and tell you what it's from. This new one? It's incredibly busy. And people are literally falling out of the woodworks. I often just lose what the hell they're talking about or doing trying to figure out what the hells going on with the rest of the area when they're on the bridge. It's too bright, there's too much color, and every damn thing attracts the eye (Including the people. Everyone's so gorgeous in the future.)

And, no. I am not saying that two people ought to be manning the bridge. But if they are going to be there, have them do something that looks useful, instead of just walking back and forth really really fast so they look like they're working super hard.
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Re: Who would make a good Honor Harrington in a Movie/TV rol
Post by dulsin   » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:14 pm

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roseandheather wrote:
cthia wrote:Lucy Liu is my first choice for Allison Harrington, with Tamlyn Tomita number two on that list.


I would like to see an asian/caucasian actress for honor like Olivia Munn. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1601397/
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Re: Who would make a good Honor Harrington in a Movie/TV rol
Post by MaxxQ   » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:38 pm

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dulsin wrote:I would like to see an asian/caucasian actress for honor like Olivia Munn. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1601397/


Are you sure she's part Asian? All I saw in her bio is that her mother remarried when she was 2 (she was born in Oklahoma) and that since he was U.S. Air Force, he was stationed in Japan for awhile. Due to that, she speaks excellent Japanese.

There's not really any indication that she has any Japanese, Chinese, or any other Asian genes.

I'm not saying she wouldn't be a good choice, just that I don't think she's of mixed ancestry.
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Re: Who would make a good Honor Harrington in a Movie/TV rol
Post by crewdude48   » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:43 pm

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MaxxQ wrote:
dulsin wrote:I would like to see an asian/caucasian actress for honor like Olivia Munn. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1601397/


Are you sure she's part Asian? All I saw in her bio is that her mother remarried when she was 2 (she was born in Oklahoma) and that since he was U.S. Air Force, he was stationed in Japan for awhile. Due to that, she speaks excellent Japanese.

There's not really any indication that she has any Japanese, Chinese, or any other Asian genes.

I'm not saying she wouldn't be a good choice, just that I don't think she's of mixed ancestry.


Have you seen a picture of her? She is definitely either part Asian, or some combination of Hispanic, Picific Islander, and Middle Easterner.
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Re: Who would make a good Honor Harrington in a Movie/TV rol
Post by Uroboros   » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:47 pm

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Her mother is of Chinese descent, so yes. Google-fu, go!
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Re: Who would make a good Honor Harrington in a Movie/TV rol
Post by MaxxQ   » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:58 pm

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Uroboros wrote:Her mother is of Chinese descent, so yes. Google-fu, go!


Okay. I defer. I only looked at the pic (and bio) at the IMDB link provided, and it looked to me like there was just a bit too much eyeliner, rather than having the eyes.

I was wrong. No sweat off my back.
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Re: Who would make a good Honor Harrington in a Movie/TV rol
Post by dulsin   » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:06 pm

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The nice thing about Olivia or any lesser known actresses is that, unlike the A-listers being bantered about, her salary won't break the bank of the production.

For the first catching fire movie J Lawrence was only paid a $500k. Now she is getting $10M a picture.

A good place to look for actresses that can act but won't need multi-million dollar salaries is from TV series that have recently been cancelled. Like Grace Park from Battlestar galactica.
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Re: Who would make a good Honor Harrington in a Movie/TV rol
Post by dulsin   » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:30 pm

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