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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:03 pm

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Given a faster than light technology and weapons scaled similar to those of the Age of Sail, some of the battles described in the Honor Harrington series resemble real-life sea battles in our historical record. For instance, the long stern chase described in On Basilisk Station has some parallels with the actions of HMS Kent at the Battle of the Falklands during World War I. Similarly, the deathride by Sarnow's battlecruisers in The Short Victorious War bears a resemblance to similar maneuvers by Admiral von Hipper during the Battle of Jutland. The final actions in The Honor of the Queen contain elements from the battles of the Barents Sea and North Cape during World War II, as well as the Battle of the River Plate. The final actions in Echoes of Honor are a recreation of the actions of Horatio Nelson at the Battle of Trafalgar except for the stealth in which it was conducted. Further, Weber's choice of interstellar technology forces trade to pursue established trade routes, and creates strategic shipping nexus that are similar to key strategic ports of the days of the Colonial Era when the sailing ship of the line was king of the sea, and Captains, Admirals and Fleets had to operate out of touch with the home government for months, even years at a time. -wiki

Perhaps subconsciously, I expected this current Battle Of Manticore to take a page out of The Persian Gulf War and Stormin' Norman's expressed adamance of not placing his ground troops in the eye of the storm by fighting a traditional Iraqi expected ground battle when he possessed such decisive air superiority, which he used ruthlessly.

If I offended anyone's sensibilities, please forgive me.
It truly was not my intention.

I am sure I am missing lots. You all know it wouldn't be my first time. It just...bothered me is all.

Such are the realities of war I suppose.
And civilians like me, the truth...I can't handle the truth!

I'm going to attempt to get back on topic before Duckk makes his God-like presence felt.

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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:15 pm

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Theisman.
I understand that realizing you gave the order to kill that many people has to make you sick to your stomach. It makes me want to puke, and I didn’t have to give it. But the only ones responsible for what happened to Filareta and the people under his command are whoever arranged to get him sent here and—assuming there’s any basis to all this speculation in the first place—whoever got to his tac officer. Not you; not me—them!”

_but it is more than a desperate attempt to get back on topic, honest. :(

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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by KNick   » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:40 pm

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Two things have changed since the 1st BoM.

First, Sphinx is now out of the protection of the RZ from the wormhole. It is now close enough to the hyper-limit that it is in single drive missile range for an attacker. Honor must be in a position to protect the planet. Otherwise all Filareta has to do is launch against the planetary orbitals that remain and the new construction that is going on.

The other thing that is different is that Honor is now in the same position that Tourville was in. She is inside the hyper-limit with Filareta outside it. Simply put, she has to wait for him to come to her. It is only after he crosses the limit and Tourville drops in behind him that Honor has any hope of forcing his surrender. If she fires on him before he crosses the limit, he simply fires back and realizing he can't survive her fire, he hypers out. She sustains about the same number of casualties, he loses nothing except some pods and his entire fleet is available to fight another day. It is only after he crosses the limit that the destruction of any of his units is ensured.
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:01 pm

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KNick wrote:Two things have changed since the 1st BoM.

First, Sphinx is now out of the protection of the RZ from the wormhole. It is now close enough to the hyper-limit that it is in single drive missile range for an attacker. Honor must be in a position to protect the planet. Otherwise all Filareta has to do is launch against the planetary orbitals that remain and the new construction that is going on.

The other thing that is different is that Honor is now in the same position that Tourville was in. She is inside the hyper-limit with Filareta outside it. Simply put, she has to wait for him to come to her. It is only after he crosses the limit and Tourville drops in behind him that Honor has any hope of forcing his surrender. If she fires on him before he crosses the limit, he simply fires back and realizing he can't survive her fire, he hypers out. She sustains about the same number of casualties, he loses nothing except some pods and his entire fleet is available to fight another day. It is only after he crosses the limit that the destruction of any of his units is ensured.

There it is!
Thanks KNick. The only reason I could accept matters, would be if that was the case.
That's the only other thing I could surmise would be different.
I expected RFC to give it to me.

But I guess he saw me as Honor initially saw the Graysons.
'Well I could explain our systems to you but you might not understand.'
Truth be told, I don't understand the LZ zone. :lol: :oops:

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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:43 pm

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cthia wrote:
KNick wrote:Two things have changed since the 1st BoM.

First, Sphinx is now out of the protection of the RZ from the wormhole. It is now close enough to the hyper-limit that it is in single drive missile range for an attacker. Honor must be in a position to protect the planet. Otherwise all Filareta has to do is launch against the planetary orbitals that remain and the new construction that is going on.

The other thing that is different is that Honor is now in the same position that Tourville was in. She is inside the hyper-limit with Filareta outside it. Simply put, she has to wait for him to come to her. It is only after he crosses the limit and Tourville drops in behind him that Honor has any hope of forcing his surrender. If she fires on him before he crosses the limit, he simply fires back and realizing he can't survive her fire, he hypers out. She sustains about the same number of casualties, he loses nothing except some pods and his entire fleet is available to fight another day. It is only after he crosses the limit that the destruction of any of his units is ensured.

There it is!
Thanks KNick. The only reason I could accept matters, would be if that was the case.

That's the only other thing I could surmise would be different.

I expected RFC to give it to me.

But I guess he saw me as Honor initially saw the Graysons.

'Well I could explain our systems to you but you might not understand.'

Truth be told, I don't understand the LZ zone. :lol: :oops:

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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by saber964   » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:08 pm

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there are several ways to fight a war and absolutely none of them involve being fair about it.

Patton-No one ever won a war by dieing for his country, he won by making the other poor son of a bitch die for his.

If you arn't cheating, you arn't trying hard enough

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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by drothgery   » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:41 pm

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Amaroq wrote:It would be interesting to see what SLN A-listers would actually be like. It's hard to have very good battle commanders when you haven't fought in any battles or wars in several centuries. The only officers in the SLN who would have experience like that would be in Frontier Fleet and there's no way Battle Fleet is every going to put its wallers under an FF commander.
The RMN managed pretty well despite almost never fighting anyone more serious than pirates between long before any 'present' Admiral was born and the start of the Havenite wars. I have my ideas on what SLN A-listers might be like, but that's for fanfic ...
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:51 pm

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drothgery wrote:
Amaroq wrote:It would be interesting to see what SLN A-listers would actually be like. It's hard to have very good battle commanders when you haven't fought in any battles or wars in several centuries. The only officers in the SLN who would have experience like that would be in Frontier Fleet and there's no way Battle Fleet is every going to put its wallers under an FF commander.
The RMN managed pretty well despite almost never fighting anyone more serious than pirates between long before any 'present' Admiral was born and the start of the Havenite wars. I have my ideas on what SLN A-listers might be like, but that's for fanfic ...


I have been wondering, if at some point, the SLN will find itself recruiting Frontier Fleet officers.


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There is a non-Honorverse one-liner thread started in the Free Range area. Have at it!

I got the idea as a result of stumbling on RFC's celery, which, I found out, is as slippery as any banana peel!

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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:20 am

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“That’s your responsibility, Admiral Harrington, and you lived up to it! You reacted to the threat you knew about, the one you saw, and I was right there on that flag bridge with you.

Theisman. ART

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by dreamrider   » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:58 am

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EoH, Ch 38

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