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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by Imaginos1892   » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:04 pm

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by George J. Smith   » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:39 pm

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From Service of the Sword, With one Stone

"Good," Hemphill said softly. "Then allow me make myself even clearer. You acted out of loyalty to Captain Harrington and the Fearless. I appreciate that. But loyalty must always be balanced with the larger perspective. Here we had a chance —a small one, admittedly, but still a chance —to feed Haven a line of disinformation that could have tied up its time and resources for years to come."
She lifted her chin. "And no matter what you, Captain Harrington, or anyone else aboard Fearless ever do with your careers, you will never accomplish anything that could possibly pay that kind of dividend for the Star Kingdom. Understood?"
"Yes, Ma'am," Cardones said.

My Bold

Hemphill got it all wrong, even the grav pulse communication she got from Honor's use of a wedge pulse to signal the Andi ship.

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by lyonheart   » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:53 am

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Hi George J. Smith,

Which Sonia thought up in the next minute or paragraph.
;)

Which might have tended to shift her view on what Honor could do, followed by destroying the BC Saladin/Thunder of God while adding Grayson to the Manticore Alliance, then winning First Hancock... :D

At what point she came to respect Honor is another question RFC may eventually enlighten us with; possibly after she was killed by the peeps... :lol:

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George J. Smith wrote:From Service of the Sword, With one Stone

"Good," Hemphill said softly. "Then allow me make myself even clearer. You acted out of loyalty to Captain Harrington and the Fearless. I appreciate that. But loyalty must always be balanced with the larger perspective. Here we had a chance —a small one, admittedly, but still a chance —to feed Haven a line of disinformation that could have tied up its time and resources for years to come."
She lifted her chin. "And no matter what you, Captain Harrington, or anyone else aboard Fearless ever do with your careers, you will never accomplish anything that could possibly pay that kind of dividend for the Star Kingdom. Understood?"
"Yes, Ma'am," Cardones said.

My Bold

Hemphill got it all wrong, even the grav pulse communication she got from Honor's use of a wedge pulse to signal the Andi ship.

T&R
GJS
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:42 am

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A few concerns. First, does Grayson have a Home Fleet? I am sure it does, but who commands it?

(No "who is on first" stints please :D )

My concern is of "Protector's Own." I know that Benjamin originally created the Protector's Own to pull Honor's sword from under foot as she stepped on sword creating a constitutional crisis when she created the ESN (Elysian Space Navy). Benjamin bought in those ships and took on (Cynthia Gonsalves) some of its officers in service, with promise of Grayson citizenship after a required amount of time. Does service in the Protector's Own count toward GSN service? Does rank transfer?

Does the Protector's Own train with the GSN? Would it be considered a more prominent posting? Say Abigail Hearns would return to Grayson service to get her ticket stamped. Would a stint in the Protector's Own be more desirable? More prestigious?

Who is the commanding officer of the Protector's Own? In case of some crazy unprecedented naval crap, such as what Harrington originally brought to Grayson, which CO, that of GSN Home Fleet or the Protector's Own, would be the man in the hot seat if the situation needed all GSN capability? Isn't Honor the CO of the Protector's Own?

Do forgive me that some things aren't particularly clear. Okay okay, a lot of things! :lol:

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by n7axw   » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:13 pm

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cthia wrote:A few concerns. First, does Grayson have a Home Fleet? I am sure it does, but who commands it?

(No "who is on first" stints please :D )

My concern is of "Protector's Own." I know that Benjamin originally created the Protector's Own to pull Honor's sword from under foot as she stepped on sword creating a constitutional crisis when she created the ESN (Elysian Space Navy). Benjamin bought in those ships and took on (Cynthia Gonsalves) some of its officers in service, with promise of Grayson citizenship after a required amount of time. Does service in the Protector's Own count toward GSN service? Does rank transfer?

Does the Protector's Own train with the GSN? Would it be considered a more prominent posting? Say Abigail Hearns would return to Grayson service to get her ticket stamped. Would a stint in the Protector's Own be more desirable? More prestigious?

Who is the commanding officer of the Protector's Own? In case of some crazy unprecedented naval crap, such as what Harrington originally brought to Grayson, which CO, that of GSN Home Fleet or the Protector's Own, would be the man in the hot seat if the situation needed all GSN capability? Isn't Honor the CO of the Protector's Own?

Do forgive me that some things aren't particularly clear. Okay okay, a lot of things! :lol:


Honor is the official commander of the Protector's Own, Alfredo Yu is next in line, serving as the defacto commander since Honor is usually with the RMN in Manticore. Judah Yanokov is currently High Admiral of the GSN since Matthews was lost at Blackbird during Oyster Bay.

Whethet or not there is an officially organized "Home Fleet" of the GSN or the name of its commander, I don't know. Maybe someone else can fill in.

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:50 pm

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n7axw wrote:
cthia wrote:
A few concerns. First, does Grayson have a Home Fleet? I am sure it does, but who commands it?

(No "who is on first" stints please :D )

My concern is of "Protector's Own." I know that Benjamin originally created the Protector's Own to pull Honor's sword from under foot as she stepped on sword creating a constitutional crisis when she created the ESN (Elysian Space Navy). Benjamin bought in those ships and took on (Cynthia Gonsalves) some of its officers in service, with promise of Grayson citizenship after a required amount of time. Does service in the Protector's Own count toward GSN service? Does rank transfer?

Does the Protector's Own train with the GSN? Would it be considered a more prominent posting? Say Abigail Hearns would return to Grayson service to get her ticket stamped. Would a stint in the Protector's Own be more desirable? More prestigious?

Who is the commanding officer of the Protector's Own? In case of some crazy unprecedented naval crap, such as what Harrington originally brought to Grayson, which CO, that of GSN Home Fleet or the Protector's Own, would be the man in the hot seat if the situation needed all GSN capability? Isn't Honor the CO of the Protector's Own?

Do forgive me that some things aren't particularly clear. Okay okay, a lot of things! :lol:


Honor is the official commander of the Protector's Own, Alfredo Yu is next in line, serving as the defacto commander since Honor is usually with the RMN in Manticore. Judah Yanokov is currently High Admiral of the GSN since Matthews was lost at Blackbird during Oyster Bay.

Whether or not there is an officially organized "Home Fleet" of the GSN or the name of its commander, I don't know. Maybe someone else can fill in.

Don

First off Don, thanks for reminding me that Matthews was lost. I also think I can assume that rank is rank by inference of your post, be it Protectors Own or the GSN.

But let me understand this, Honor is the second ranking Officer of the GSN and "the" CO of Protector's Own? (That little minx of a Salamander has loads of power where Grayson is concerned)

In the overall scheme of things the Protector's Own is not considered part of the GSN? Both fleets being in Grayson orbit when a "Case Zulu" translates in system, Honor will take orders from Judah Yanakov?

Nothing against Judah, but come on!

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by saber964   » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:02 pm

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Ok, The Protectors Own is just like the name implies, It is the personal fleet of the Protector when a person joins the Protectors Own he gives his oath of allegiance to the Protector as his personal vassals. IIRC they wear different uniforms (maroon & gold) and receive more pay (15%) than the GSN.
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by akira.taylor   » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:02 pm

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cthia wrote:
n7axw wrote:<SNIP>
Honor is the official commander of the Protector's Own, Alfredo Yu is next in line, serving as the defacto commander since Honor is usually with the RMN in Manticore. Judah Yanokov is currently High Admiral of the GSN since Matthews was lost at Blackbird during Oyster Bay.

Whether or not there is an officially organized "Home Fleet" of the GSN or the name of its commander, I don't know. Maybe someone else can fill in.

Don

First off Don, thanks for reminding me that Matthews was lost. I also think I can assume that rank is rank by inference of your post, be it Protectors Own or the GSN.

But let me understand this, Honor is the second ranking Officer of the GSN and "the" CO of Protector's Own? (That little minx of a Salamander has loads of power where Grayson is concerned)

In the overall scheme of things the Protector's Own is not considered part of the GSN? Both fleets being in Grayson orbit when a "Case Zulu" translates in system, Honor will take orders from Judah Yanakov?

Nothing against Judah, but come on!


Yep, Harrington would take orders from Yanakov. Now, Yanakov not being an idiot, he would ask for her input, and probably go along with it (pretty much) - but he would also ask for input from all the task force commanders, as well. Additionally, he would mostly be following preplanned actions (see: not an idiot), which would have been formulated by him with advice from all sorts of people (everyone with stars, their staffs, the ship captains, the High Command, etc.), but adjusting for what is actually happening (which won't be quite what they planned for, but some variant on the plan(s)).

Of course, the probability that Honor will be present for a "Case Zulu" is remote (what with gallivanting off with the RMN), so Yu would be commanding the Protector's Own, but that doesn't really change much.

Does that all make sense? (It does to me, but I'm in here with my thoughts.)
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:39 am

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Ashes of Victory
How could we not have noticed it on Hell? All that time, and we never even guessed— But then she drew a deep breath of understanding. Of course. Her link with Nimitz operated through the 'cat's empathic sense. They'd never used the telepathic "channel" to communicate, and so Nimitz had never even suspected that it had been taken from him. Not until the moment he'd reached out to his mate . . . and she hadn't heard him at all.


Mesa has designs of getting its cold clammy claws on live treecats to try and figure out what makes them tick. It is agreed how dangerous it would be if Mesa were to be successful in unlocking the secrets of the treecat's telepathic and empathic abilities and were able to duplicate them.

Perhaps it is a bit insensitive, but I wonder if there were dead treecats recovered from the treecat holocaust. Perhaps the correct professionals could have taken opportunity to study, more closely, treecat physiology. (Treecats desiring the return of any recovered dead bodies notwithstanding of course).

Is there textev about burial traditions of the cats?

At any rate, there has been concern about Mesa being able to closely study and examine the cats. Has there been an attempt of Manticore to unlock the secrets? It seems, with the technical innovations of the Honorverse, that telepathic and empathic communication could be electronically detected for certain. Perhaps an examination of the wave would be informative. Treecats could be "asked" to participate in non-invasive study. I think they'd agree, perhaps would even donate organs (organ donors) to study after death, much like humans.

An interesting site, included FYI ...


Is Telepathy Possible From Far Distances?

Telepathy, often referred to as Extra-Sensory perception, can be described as mind to mind communication. It is a silent language of thoughts, carried out by communication between two people. It is known to deal with thought transmission from one person to another. There are no boundaries of distance in order for a telepathic communication to succeed. As a matter of fact, the more harmonious a relationship is between two people, the better the chance of them having a successful telepathic communication, whether it be one mile away, or three thousand miles away! Telepathic success was achieved in bio-communication from Moscow to Tomsk, a distance of almost three thousand miles! This proves that telepathic communication from a distance is possible.

Telepathy is a form of energy and it travels instantly. They are thought waves, and thought waves are cosmic waves that penetrate all time and space. Some people hold the belief that telepathy can travel faster than the speed of light. As a matter of fact, if you take a look at the law of thinking, you will learn that our thoughts travel at the speed 186,000 miles per second! That means that your thought travels 930,000 times faster than the sound of your voice! This also means, that your thoughts flash around the world within a second! Our thoughts are power, and they will always produce effect. Every human being is capable of doing this.

In order for a successful telepathic communication to happen, an inner state of relaxation must be reached. The brain has to be at the Alpha frequency, in order to utilize telepathy, which is also known as the “sixth sense.” You can find brain wave entertainment audios for tapping into your alpha frequency at amazon.com or at http://www.brainsync.com/. Make sure you use headphones and a room where you won’t be disturbed. ESP and telepathic awareness is determined by the amount of Alpha mind frequency achieved by different persons. They found that the lowest amount of cortical emission produced the greatest potential of ESP. Alpha frequency ranges from 12 to 8 cycles per second. Here are three other states including Alpha:

Beta- 26 to 12 cycles per second. Reflective of outer awareness and normal conscious mental activity.

Alpha- 12 to 8 cycles per second. Shows heightened creativity and inner consciousness.

Theta- 8 to 4 cycles per second- Allows deeper levels of meditation and recall.

Delta- 4 to 0 cycles per second. Reflective of inner levels of consciousness and deep sleep or total outer unconsciousness.

In order for a successful telepathic communication you must do the following.

You must be in harmony with yourself.
Telepathy needs an environment of belief and faith. It does not function well in an environment of doubt and disbelief.
The mind must be cleared completely before attempting telepathy.
To be a good sender, you must send out your thought with intense force.
To be a good receiver, you must be passive, quiet, and relaxed.
Not only can telepathy be used for mind to mind communications, it can also be used to communicate with the universe what you want. Let’s say you have a list of your top 10 goals for the next 3 months, written out and defined clearly with detail. What you want to do with that list is re-write your goals first thing in the morning and just before bed. Why at these times you ask? It’s due to the fact that at these times you’re in your alpha mind frequency and your not competing as much with other people’s mind frequencies. Why re-write your top 10 goals? Then your subconscious mind (it never stops working) picks up on these goals and you start working towards those goals. Since your subconscious mind picks up on your top 10 goals, it communicates this telepathically to the universe and you begin to attract things that are the pathways to your goals! Remember to STAY FLEXIBLE. Sometimes it’s going to seem like it’s working against you. It’s not. As long as you arrive at your goals, what does it matter? Those “bad things” that happened are not going to matter anymore. Oh yeah, one more thing. Your subconscious also loves working to accomplish things by dates. So make time lines and don’t make them anymore then 3 months. Don’t be scared! Do it! You’ll be amazed what happens when you commit!

Remember, fear and doubt are the enemies of confidence and belief. Acceptance and belief are the major factors for a successful telepathic experience. “To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders.” -Lao Tzu :(

http://manofmystery24.hubpages.com/hub/ ... e-Universe

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by n7axw   » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:01 pm

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cthia wrote:Ashes of Victory
How could we not have noticed it on Hell? All that time, and we never even guessed— But then she drew a deep breath of understanding. Of course. Her link with Nimitz operated through the 'cat's empathic sense. They'd never used the telepathic "channel" to communicate, and so Nimitz had never even suspected that it had been taken from him. Not until the moment he'd reached out to his mate . . . and she hadn't heard him at all.


Mesa has designs of getting its cold clammy claws on live treecats to try and figure out what makes them tick. It is agreed how dangerous it would be if Mesa were to be successful in unlocking the secrets of the treecat's telepathic and empathic abilities and were able to duplicate them.

Perhaps it is a bit insensitive, but I wonder if there were dead treecats recovered from the treecat holocaust. Perhaps the correct professionals could have taken opportunity to study, more closely, treecat physiology. (Treecats desiring the return of any recovered dead bodies notwithstanding of course).

Is there textev about burial traditions of the cats?

At any rate, there has been concern about Mesa being able to closely study and examine the cats. Has there been an attempt of Manticore to unlock the secrets? It seems, with the technical innovations of the Honorverse, that telepathic and empathic communication could be electronically detected for certain. Perhaps an examination of the wave would be informative. Treecats could be "asked" to participate in non-invasive study. I think they'd agree, perhaps would even donate organs (organ donors) to study after death, much like humans.

An interesting site, included FYI ...


Is Telepathy Possible From Far Distances?

Telepathy, often referred to as Extra-Sensory perception, can be described as mind to mind communication. It is a silent language of thoughts, carried out by communication between two people. It is known to deal with thought transmission from one person to another. There are no boundaries of distance in order for a telepathic communication to succeed. As a matter of fact, the more harmonious a relationship is between two people, the better the chance of them having a successful telepathic communication, whether it be one mile away, or three thousand miles away! Telepathic success was achieved in bio-communication from Moscow to Tomsk, a distance of almost three thousand miles! This proves that telepathic communication from a distance is possible.

Telepathy is a form of energy and it travels instantly. They are thought waves, and thought waves are cosmic waves that penetrate all time and space. Some people hold the belief that telepathy can travel faster than the speed of light. As a matter of fact, if you take a look at the law of thinking, you will learn that our thoughts travel at the speed 186,000 miles per second! That means that your thought travels 930,000 times faster than the sound of your voice! This also means, that your thoughts flash around the world within a second! Our thoughts are power, and they will always produce effect. Every human being is capable of doing this.

In order for a successful telepathic communication to happen, an inner state of relaxation must be reached. The brain has to be at the Alpha frequency, in order to utilize telepathy, which is also known as the “sixth sense.” You can find brain wave entertainment audios for tapping into your alpha frequency at amazon.com or at http://www.brainsync.com/. Make sure you use headphones and a room where you won’t be disturbed. ESP and telepathic awareness is determined by the amount of Alpha mind frequency achieved by different persons. They found that the lowest amount of cortical emission produced the greatest potential of ESP. Alpha frequency ranges from 12 to 8 cycles per second. Here are three other states including Alpha:

Beta- 26 to 12 cycles per second. Reflective of outer awareness and normal conscious mental activity.

Alpha- 12 to 8 cycles per second. Shows heightened creativity and inner consciousness.

Theta- 8 to 4 cycles per second- Allows deeper levels of meditation and recall.

Delta- 4 to 0 cycles per second. Reflective of inner levels of consciousness and deep sleep or total outer unconsciousness.

In order for a successful telepathic communication you must do the following.

You must be in harmony with yourself.
Telepathy needs an environment of belief and faith. It does not function well in an environment of doubt and disbelief.
The mind must be cleared completely before attempting telepathy.
To be a good sender, you must send out your thought with intense force.
To be a good receiver, you must be passive, quiet, and relaxed.
Not only can telepathy be used for mind to mind communications, it can also be used to communicate with the universe what you want. Let’s say you have a list of your top 10 goals for the next 3 months, written out and defined clearly with detail. What you want to do with that list is re-write your goals first thing in the morning and just before bed. Why at these times you ask? It’s due to the fact that at these times you’re in your alpha mind frequency and your not competing as much with other people’s mind frequencies. Why re-write your top 10 goals? Then your subconscious mind (it never stops working) picks up on these goals and you start working towards those goals. Since your subconscious mind picks up on your top 10 goals, it communicates this telepathically to the universe and you begin to attract things that are the pathways to your goals! Remember to STAY FLEXIBLE. Sometimes it’s going to seem like it’s working against you. It’s not. As long as you arrive at your goals, what does it matter? Those “bad things” that happened are not going to matter anymore. Oh yeah, one more thing. Your subconscious also loves working to accomplish things by dates. So make time lines and don’t make them anymore then 3 months. Don’t be scared! Do it! You’ll be amazed what happens when you commit!

Remember, fear and doubt are the enemies of confidence and belief. Acceptance and belief are the major factors for a successful telepathic experience. “To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders.” -Lao Tzu :(

http://manofmystery24.hubpages.com/hub/ ... e-Universe


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