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Re: [Spoiler - UH] utube snippet
Post by cthia   » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:25 pm

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cthia wrote:I need to reread it myself, for absorption instead of transcription, but I think I read that there are evil People??? I wondered about that. Perhaps I'm mistaken. It would make sense. Treecats are an intelligent species but they shouldn't be... perfect?

Even so, I still hope I am wrong.

Yes, I was right about that. There are evil treecats. A part of me always thought crime, evil, might be missing in a telempathic species. Since one can't really get away with malevolence, or keeping anger bottled up -- which leads to negative consequences. Would anyone else have guessed that?

video snippet wrote:...just like the People there were good two-legs and there were evil two-legs.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: [Spoiler - UH] utube snippet
Post by TangoLima   » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:24 pm

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Why are Faith and James left out of the not-mind-blind
grouping ?
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Re: [Spoiler - UH] utube snippet
Post by tlb   » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:54 pm

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TangoLima wrote:Why are Faith and James left out of the not-mind-blind
grouping ?

Go to the point where the babies were born: when one of the cats tasted the mind glow, the baby responded.
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Re: [Spoiler - UH] utube snippet
Post by TangoLima   » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:46 pm

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about Faith and James

My point is that they were closely interacted with 'cats early on. They have very similar genes to Honor.
I guess I am worried that they will fade into the background or be redshirted. They are characters with much potential. I'd like to see more of them and the family/social side of the story/saga.
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Re: [Spoiler - UH] utube snippet
Post by tlb   » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:50 pm

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TangoLima wrote:about Faith and James

My point is that they were closely interacted with 'cats early on. They have very similar genes to Honor.
I guess I am worried that they will fade into the background or be redshirted. They are characters with much potential. I'd like to see more of them and the family/social side of the story/saga.

I had to reread bits of At All Costs to get things straight: the baby that can sense and respond is Raoul (Honor's son) and not Faith or James. It becomes clearest at the end of the book while reading the story about the Phoenix.
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Re: [Spoiler - UH] utube snippet
Post by cthia   » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:13 pm

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Entire video snippet of UH transcribed here for our convenience.


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I attempted a chart, with benefit of saber964's invaluable assistance, with everyone concerned on it as far as telempathic sense and its perceived strength. The plot hadn't completely settled yet, because I'm trying to determine exactly where to place Raoul and Honor.

tlb wrote:
TangoLima wrote:about Faith and James

My point is that they were closely interacted with 'cats early on. They have very similar genes to Honor.
I guess I am worried that they will fade into the background or be redshirted. They are characters with much potential. I'd like to see more of them and the family/social side of the story/saga.

I had to reread bits of At All Costs to get things straight: the baby that can sense and respond is Raoul (Honor's son) and not Faith or James. It becomes clearest at the end of the book while reading the story about the Phoenix.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: [Spoiler - UH] utube snippet
Post by Brigade XO   » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:00 am

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Go back and read "Beauty and the Beast" about how Honor's parents met.
You could label what Alfred Harrington displays, at least in relation to Allison, as a "psychic" talent but it is not what Treecats have amoung themselves of what goes on in the normal Treecat-Human bond. He knows she is in trouble, he also has a fair idea of where she is but they don't read each other's minds.
It felt odd, reading that part of the story, introducing this semi-forshadowing paranormal talent with Alfred when it clearly doesn't show up anywhere elce in the series. We know he's a Harrington- direct line Harrington and his daughter will be Honore, but he doesn't show the aptitude or capacity to bond with a Treecat. It also later clearly doesn't bother him that he doesn't have it though eventualy his daughter has it. Plot device, backstory (Marine who saw too much and changed track to become a Dr.) and putting the pieces in-place for the linkage on so many levels with Beowulf.
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Re: [Spoiler - UH] utube snippet
Post by Hans   » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:25 am

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Hello,

what shall i say?
Thanks to @cthia - incredible thing for us who
- don't hear that well
- and/or are not native English speakers
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Re: [Spoiler - UH] utube snippet
Post by n7axw   » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:50 am

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Brigade XO wrote:Go back and read "Beauty and the Beast" about how Honor's parents met.
You could label what Alfred Harrington displays, at least in relation to Allison, as a "psychic" talent but it is not what Treecats have amoung themselves of what goes on in the normal Treecat-Human bond. He knows she is in trouble, he also has a fair idea of where she is but they don't read each other's minds.
It felt odd, reading that part of the story, introducing this semi-forshadowing paranormal talent with Alfred when it clearly doesn't show up anywhere elce in the series. We know he's a Harrington- direct line Harrington and his daughter will be Honore, but he doesn't show the aptitude or capacity to bond with a Treecat. It also later clearly doesn't bother him that he doesn't have it though eventualy his daughter has it. Plot device, backstory (Marine who saw too much and changed track to become a Dr.) and putting the pieces in-place for the linkage on so many levels with Beowulf.


According to Nimitz, Alfred's "bonding slot" has been taken by Allison. Given the way it's put it sounds very much like a human-tree cat bonding. Certainly the outward manifestation is very similar to a normal bonding.

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Re: [Spoiler - UH] utube snippet
Post by cthia   » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:54 am

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Sharidann wrote:Harahap has more lives than a cat and an extraordinary share of luck...
1) he survives the assassination attempt,
2) he dodges the bullet with the killer nanites, thanks to the Green Pines strike (the Detweilers assume that he got them, as it is SOP and he visited the medical center, they didn't realize he was rushed to a hotspot before his killer nanites were ready for him...)
3) being adopted by a treecat means with 100%-certainty that he avoids the death penalty, as it would also condemn his treecat to death or undue duress at the very least. Plus being adopted is kinda saying he is not an absolute bad guy as there doesn't seem to be something like an evil treecat...
And yes, a big game changer, as it means his assertions can be even more trusted....

Oh boy!!!

Did I say... EARC????
Pardon my bold to call attention.

You just had to go and spoil my peaceful nights sleeping didn't you? FYI, there are evil treecats. I know, surprises the treecat stuffin outta me too.

Running with that and considering Clean Killer's name, I can't be 100 % certain that Clean Killer isn't a bit evil. I don't think he is, but he took the full on emotional brunt of what happened to his older sister, Silver Claw, "who had made it into the Black Rock clan. She had also died with her mate, her kittens and her entire new clan family when the fire fell from the heavens. Clean Killer had been near the boundary between Black Rock's range and Mossy Tree Climb's. Indeed, he had been mind speaking with her when it happened. And he would never forget that day. Never forget her scream of terror, brief as the time between two breaths, before that beloved mind voice vanished into cold eternal silence. Cut away from him forever, with the sharpness of one of the singing blades the two-leg hunters and scouts used."

Clean Killer's rage runs deep. The Yawata Strike memory song has to torture his poor soul relentlessly, each and every time he hears it. It is enough to spark a seed of evil. Albeit, it'd be a bit ironic, since Harahap himself mused about Clean Killer's name.

Treecats' memories aren't emotionally diluted as humans' are. It is as real for them as the maiden voyage. It is why the memory song of that event is sugar coated. It is just too emotionally charged.

On that last note, the video snippet implied that baby cats are spared certain memory songs. I wonder how that works. How can they not hear them? And at what age are they considered old enough to cope?

Tickles me pink to think they may have to carry some form of an ID to request memory songs. LOL

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