Weird Harold wrote:cthia wrote:Marinescu also has the same gene. I didn't quill that either! RFC did. It was Marinescu who I called a bloodthirsty psychopathic bitch, as alluded to by Cherneyshev, which came from higher up -- RFC.
Actually, no she doesn't(didn't):SoV Ch. 50 wrote:The Bardasano genome carried some unfortunate instabilities, .... So far as Chernyshev was aware, on the other hand, there was no known history of instability in Marinescu’s genome…which hadn't prevented Janice from being—in his considered opinion—a stone-cold psychopath.
Randomiser wrote:This seems to be the heart of the misunderstanding between Cthia and JohnRoth. Both agree that Martinescu is a psychopath, which is amply demonstrated by textev. The argument is about Bardisano. Cthia seems to be assuming that the Chernyshev quote means that Marinescu shares the Bardasano heritage (the comments on Bardisano are about her genome, ie the genetic traits which identify her particular breed line, NOT about some single gene). However,the textev implies Chernyshev is contrasting Bardasano and Martinescu, along the lines of "Bardasano's line may have been so dodgy it came near to being terminated sometimes, BUT Marinescu is a genuine psychopath". The line Weird Harold highlights makes it impossible to argue that Marinescu shares the somewhat unstable Bardisano genome.
If Cthia wants to continue to argue that Bardasano is a psychpath we have to see actual textev about her behaviour which specifies that.
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Again! Not once do I ever specifically assert that Bardasano is a psychopath. I keep pointing that out, but to no avail. Stop putting words in my mouth or point out where I did.
However, there is such a thing called inference and the transitive property of equality. If A = B and B = C then A = C.
The instability (which has now been labeled courtesy of RFC) has obviously manifested itself before. Obviously. The instability is well known. There had to be a "patient zero" who was responsible for bringing the errant gene into light. It must be Bardasano, because the genome is named after her. If she isn't patient zero, then the instability would have been named "Maria" if Maria was the first to exhibit the trait. Unless Bardasano was the first off the assembly line in her line. Unlikely!
It is sligtly alluded to again in passing, paraphrasing "Bardasano is a good example of the good traits outweighing the bad."
Everyone agrees that Marinescu is a psychopath -- a stone-cold psychopath.
We agree that she shares the Bardasano genome. Not a particular gene, but the genome itself. Moving along.
The Bardasano genome has instabilities. Though we never knew what those instabilities were, like JohnRoth humorously pointed out. And I agree, it could have been something as benign as eating chicken with a fork. Which is actually illegal in one place on Earth. We didn't know what that instability was. Until now, that is. RFC fleshes it out for his readers, with Cherneyshev's musings. Cherneyshev -- who himself is certainly privy to the whispers and accusations and facts of what those instabilities are!
THEN, Marinescu confirms that she does indeed suffer from the psychopathic heritage obtained from => the Bardasano genome.
BUT! That isn't to say that Bardasano suffers from the same psychopathic instability. Agreed! BUT! WHY IS THE GENOME NAMED AFTER HER??? And why would it have come so close to being culled, IF the psychopathic label, that RFC has just now fleshed out, hadn't manifested itself QUITE A BIT and IN A VERY BIG WAY!
Which, btw, is realistic. Man is not GOD, and any attempt to create perfection is going to result in some unwanted side effects. It wouldn't be literary art if RFC would fail to capitalize on one of the more profound failings, whereas in this case is psychopathy. Which isn't lost on me.
It may be that Bardasano has never manifested any psychopathic tendencies. But textev supplies overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The least of which IS NOT the fact that the instability => is named after her.
I'm sorry, but this statement is so funny I'm going to split my side. Your logic is more twisted than Atlanta's Spaghetti Junction
The line Weird Harold highlights makes it impossible to argue that Marinescu shares the somewhat unstable Bardisano genome.
THAT WAS THE PAST! PRE-HOUDINI!
Yet her psychopathy, as a result of Houdini, is confirmed in a big, huge, stone-cold psychopathic way that we have all agreed on.
If you missed the obvious, that quote -- as far as any documented evidence -- became INVALID as soon as her psychopathy, IN THE FIELD, was indeed confirmed!
Again, Bardasano may not be unstable. Yet her line is a risk. It should be considered a severe risk for the MAlign who can't afford to have people in field positions that may go ballistic and start eating people. That is why most militaries perform psyche evaluations as a matter of principle. It is why I said that I can't believe that her line wasn't culled, despite the utility of some of its brilliant people.
Would you marry a line that has a history of instability that has been identified as psychopathy?
Would you trust her with your kids?
Would you trust your super secret, centuries old regime to someone of the line?
Can you accept sleeping with one eye open?
The logic used in the quote of the quote that Harold quoted is insane. But since we're discussing psychopathy, I suppose it fits right in. LOL