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Re: Yet another (crazy) idea.
Post by Relax   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:37 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
Relax wrote:Don't be absurd


I spent 21 years in aircraft maintenance; the only thing absurd about this discussion is the concept of 100% readiness. There's always at least one "hanger queen" in any squadron of aircraft.


One hanger queen becomes 25 LAC's in your mind?
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Re: Yet another (crazy) idea.
Post by Weird Harold   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:44 am

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Relax wrote:One hanger queen becomes 25 LAC's in your mind?


One per squadron becomes one per CLAC in yours? :roll:

Depending on squadron structure, 200 LACs could be as many as 25 squadrons.
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Re: Yet another (crazy) idea.
Post by Relax   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:47 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
Relax wrote:One hanger queen becomes 25 LAC's in your mind?


One per squadron becomes one per CLAC in yours? :roll:

Depending on squadron structure, 200 LACs could be as many as 25 squadrons.


Yea and in war, those hanger queens fly. Duct tape and all.

1 out of 4. Good grief, next you will postulate one out of 2 for justification.
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Re: Yet another (crazy) idea.
Post by Weird Harold   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:37 am

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Relax wrote:1 out of 4.


Check the batteries in your caculator: 200 / 8 = 25

Eight is the size of starship squadrons everywhere except the RMN (post-Janacek.) I don't know if it applies to LACs or not.
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Re: Yet another (crazy) idea.
Post by Theemile   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:57 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
Relax wrote:1 out of 4.


Check the batteries in your caculator: 200 / 8 = 25

Eight is the size of starship squadrons everywhere except the RMN (post-Janacek.) I don't know if it applies to LACs or not.


LACs are usually 6 ship squadrons. That's how they were described in EoH when they were re-introduced into Manty Service as the Shrike, in HaE where Honor had the 12 Apostles on Wayfarer (2 squadrons) and in the errata in the Jaynes and SITS books.
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Re: Yet another (crazy) idea.
Post by Duckk   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:13 am

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They're 8 ship squadrons. Straight from EoH:

The wing will probably be divided into twelve eight-LAC squadrons
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Re: Yet another (crazy) idea.
Post by Belial666   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:07 am

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Question:

Was AAC edited in later editions or something? I got my copy as a gift by a family member traveling to the US and it appears to have differences. For example, those 600 LACs in the prologue? They came from two Aviary-class CLACs, not three.
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Re: Yet another (crazy) idea.
Post by Hutch   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:13 am

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Belial666 wrote:Question:

Was AAC edited in later editions or something? I got my copy as a gift by a family member traveling to the US and it appears to have differences. For example, those 600 LACs in the prologue? They came from two Aviary-class CLACs, not three.


Belial, this is from my "Mission of Honor" CD, so it should be from the edited book. First sentences:

The big Aviary-class CLACs and their escorting battlecruisers crossed the Alpha wall into normal-space just outside the hyper limit. There were only three of the superdreadnought-sized vessels, but their LAC bays spat out almost six hundred light attack craft, and if the Republic of Haven's Cimeterre-class LACs were shorter-legged, more lightly armed, and nowhere near so capable as the Star Kingdom of Manticore's Shrikes and Ferrets, they were more than adequate for their current assignment.
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Re: Yet another (crazy) idea.
Post by Hutch   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:22 am

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Relax wrote:One hanger queen becomes 25 LAC's in your mind?


Weird Harold wrote:[One per squadron becomes one per CLAC in yours? :roll:

Depending on squadron structure, 200 LACs could be as many as 25 squadrons.


Relax wrote: Yea and in war, those hanger queens fly. Duct tape and all.

1 out of 4. Good grief, next you will postulate one out of 2 for justification.


Got to go with Relax here, Harold (not a maintenance guy, but I've been around a base or three). Normally you are doing good to have 90% FMC (Fully Mission Capable). And something I've always admired about the MWW is that he had taken mantenance into account in his books....something that may affect the SEM/Grayson readiness rates in the near future.

But for one extremely critical mission with maximum force and all spares and requirements put on highest priority for delivery of parts (even if you have to strip non-participating ships), then you can get a 100% for a very brief time.

IMHO as always. YMMV.
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Re: Yet another (crazy) idea.
Post by SharkHunter   » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:26 am

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LAC count wise, thanks for the info. I'd totally missed the launch ratio despite reading the whole series a number of times now. Also, propulsion wise, I stand corrected, thought that was just he spider-drives that were doing that, which is what made them such a difficult proposition to track. If RFC says otherwise, however, I'm not gonna argue.

As far as the "instantaneous acceleration to lightspeed", on an atomic level, that's what I thought that the impellers were doing in N-space: grabbing photons/atoms etc., using the gravitic bands of the wedge and throwing them backwards, and deriving their acceleration from that force.

For example, you grab a bit of space dust out there, and the wedge accelerates it to near-C, using however much E required to do so, for the sake of discussion, call it a million to one proposition. The equal and opposite reaction would be a force pushing one million bits of space dust in the other direction.

Now then, obviously a ship is a whole lot more bits of way heavier molecules than "space dust millions", but the math seems more match-able to real world physics.
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