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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:13 am

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To galvanize its polities and rally the troops plus simultaneously receive the governments backing to bankroll the Navy, the League could pull a MAlign and "eradanite" one of its own planets whilst feigning outrage and ignorance of the perpetrators.

A State of the Union Address that includes "We must build our navy and pursue and destroy the perpetrators. We must prepare to meet this threat head on."

It wouldn't be the first conspiracy theory and plan in the Honorverse.

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by Dauntless   » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:20 am

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I'd like to think that even the Malign wouldn't sink to those depths.

but

these are the people we were planning on doing the same to Torch, who have selling human slaves for centuries, who just to cover their tracks as they leave their hom planet have killed millions.

so I can see this happening all to easily.

sigh RFC really knows how to make his black harts, extremely black
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:03 pm

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Questions.

Am I correct that Trevor's Star was the most strategic system to both the RHN and RMN in their war against each other?

What system would be the most strategic to the GA in an all out battle against the League, if the League can get back on balance?

Not considering the Havenite and Manticoran home systems.

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by JeffEngel   » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:13 pm

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cthia wrote:
RDs massed approximately 270 tons, making them too large to deploy from missile tubes; they were instead deployed from the ship's boat bays. The drones had a limited range because of their small size.

Small size? WTF? That's the mass of 135 automobiles. Probably small if considering room for tech&toys to be fitted. But it seems that that kind of mass can eat up the available room in a boat bay rather quickly. There are lifeboats, pods, pinnaces, RDs, etc. etc., in a boat bay and I got the impression of a mostly empty cavernous space aboard Tepes when Clinkscales looked for a port for his minicomp.
Size is relative. Those BC's mass 600, 800 ktons, and the density is vastly lower than a recon drone's, since it's got space inside for air and such.

And what the hell kind of system is deploying these things like buckshot?

Those aren't being deployed like buckshot. All you may really need is one near a target group - beyond that, it's mostly to cover yourself against losses of them. Ideally you can recover them too, though often enough you can't.
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:29 pm

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cthia wrote:
RDs massed approximately 270 tons, making them too large to deploy from missile tubes; they were instead deployed from the ship's boat bays. The drones had a limited range because of their small size.

Small size? WTF? That's the mass of 135 automobiles. Probably small if considering room for tech&toys to be fitted. But it seems that that kind of mass can eat up the available room in a boat bay rather quickly. There are lifeboats, pods, pinnaces, RDs, etc. etc., in a boat bay and I got the impression of a mostly empty cavernous space aboard Tepes when Clinkscales looked for a port for his minicomp.
Size is relative. Those BC's mass 600, 800 ktons, and the density is vastly lower than a recon drone's, since it's got space inside for air and such.

And what the hell kind of system is deploying these things like buckshot?

JeffEngel wrote:Those aren't being deployed like buckshot. All you may really need is one near a target group - beyond that, it's mostly to cover yourself against losses of them. Ideally you can recover them too, though often enough you can't.

Begs apology Jeff. I was referring to the method of propulsion. Is this some sort of mega-hydraulic propulsion system? Which, to me, suggests some sort of runway in the boat bay. Akin to the hydraulic systems on deck of aircraft carriers to launch much lighter planes. Three drones being deployed is buckshot enough. That's the mass of over 400 automobiles in a single launch.

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by Weird Harold   » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:32 pm

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cthia wrote:What system would be the most strategic to the GA in an all out battle against the League, if the League can get back on balance?

Not considering the Havenite and Manticoran home systems.


Beowulf or the Lynx terminus system. Probably Beowulf because it is/was a former Core world and is inside the borders of the Solarian League.
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:56 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:
cthia wrote:What system would be the most strategic to the GA in an all out battle against the League, if the League can get back on balance?

Not considering the Havenite and Manticoran home systems.


Beowulf or the Lynx terminus system. Probably Beowulf because it is/was a former Core world and is inside the borders of the Solarian League.

What target in League space would be the most strategic for the GA to hit? Or has the wormhole junctions satisfied that objective?

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:05 pm

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Also, what is the most strategically valuable wormhole junction to both the League and the GA?

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by Weird Harold   » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:07 pm

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cthia wrote:
Weird Harold wrote:Beowulf or the Lynx terminus system. Probably Beowulf because it is/was a former Core world and is inside the borders of the Solarian League.


What target in League space would be the most strategic for the GA to hit? Or has the wormhole junctions satisfied that objective?


That's a moving target for the GA. The Wormhole termini were at the top of the list to start with; now protecting Beowulf is probably a high priority. What comes next is mostly going to be diplomatic overtures to the 25% that supported Beowulf in the Solarian Legislature vote.

War with the Solarian League isn't one that can be won by smashing things just because there's a war on.

cthia wrote:Also, what is the most strategically valuable wormhole junction to both the League and the GA?


Manticore. Duh!
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:25 pm

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cthia wrote:
Also, what is the most strategically valuable wormhole junction to both the League and the GA?

Weird Harold wrote:Manticore. Duh!

Of course. That's why I initially said "not considering the Manticore and Haven system. Because, well, that's obvious.

I'd like to know what junction, short of the Manticoran junction is most valuable. Perhaps as a strategic base of ops for the League. In essence, the junction that would be analogous to the League's Iwo Jima.

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