Honorverse ramblings and musings

Don't know about our Navy, but General MacArthur was rather famously fired by President Truman during the Korean War.

"Alright I will say it, because Truman was too much of a pussy wimp to let McArthur go in there and blow out those Commie bastards!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfi4s8cjLFI&hd=1

Dieu_Le_Fera wrote:

Don't know about our Navy, but General MacArthur was rather famously fired by President Truman during the Korean War.

"Alright I will say it, because Truman was too much of a pussy wimp to let McArthur go in there and blow out those Commie bastards!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfi4s8cjLFI&hd=1

One of the funniest posts I've come across in a long time. Perfect timing, expert delivery. Smooth intro. And oh so appropos.

Now I laugh myself to sleep. I pray the Lord my soul to keep.

I'm beginning to think that a wise investment for retirement savings would be shares in the company that makes roseandheather's favourite tissues. Too late for me, I'm already retired, but some of you might like to consider it .

Cheers

John

roseandheather wrote:

cthia wrote:I always understood why she did it. Just amazed me that she could do it. Her stomach? Her entire soul must have curdled...her soul must have been like buttermilk. My niece always said that she gave a new meaning to 'take one for the team.' I always got the impression that at the end of the day, only her relationship with Giscard kept her sane. Oh to what heights she could have soared had he not died. I simply cannot wait to see her portrayed onscreen. Look and all! He died with Eloi— on his lips. What the quintessential love story.

And that, cthia, is why I love her more than I love any other female character in the Honorverse (yes, even more than Estelle, albeit barely - not that Essie needs to know!!) - and why I want to wrap her up in a ginormous hug forever and make all the pain go away. (And, y'know, serve her to the end of my days. If a Grayson could work for the Republic's President while marrying a Manticoran - hi, Allen! - I'd manage it.)

(We won't talk about the fanmix I'm working on in honor of Javier and Eloise, okay? Okay.)

*reaches for next box of tissues*

Lincoln and McClellan

Then there was Abraham Lincoln who got rid of general McClellan when asked about it Abe told this joke, "There was a man who had his horse put a foot in the stirrup the man said. 'If you are going to get own, I'm going to get off.'," then Abe said he was not getting off.

Poker.

Dieu_Le_Fera wrote:

Don't know about our Navy, but General MacArthur was rather famously fired by President Truman during the Korean War.

"Alright I will say it, because Truman was too much of a pussy wimp to let McArthur go in there and blow out those Commie bastards!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfi4s8cjLFI&hd=1

John Prigent wrote:
I'm beginning to think that a wise investment for retirement savings would be shares in the company that makes roseandheather's favourite tissues. Too late for me, I'm already retired, but some of you might like to consider it .

Cheers

John

roseandheather wrote:

cthia wrote:
I always understood why she did it. Just amazed me that she could do it. Her stomach? Her entire soul must have curdled...her soul must have been like buttermilk. My niece always said that she gave a new meaning to 'take one for the team.' I always got the impression that at the end of the day, only her relationship with Giscard kept her sane. Oh to what heights she could have soared had he not died. I simply cannot wait to see her portrayed onscreen. Look and all! He died with Eloi— on his lips. What the quintessential love story.

And that, cthia, is why I love her more than I love any other female character in the Honorverse (yes, even more than Estelle, albeit barely - not that Essie needs to know!!) - and why I want to wrap her up in a ginormous hug forever and make all the pain go away. (And, y'know, serve her to the end of my days. If a Grayson could work for the Republic's President while marrying a Manticoran - hi, Allen! - I'd manage it.)

(We won't talk about the fanmix I'm working on in honor of Javier and Eloise, okay? Okay.)

*reaches for next box of tissues*

Attaboy John! I've been trying to get an all-in. You coax the 'brand' out of her and I'm making a call to go all-in!!

Of course, I'm not much better.

We all love Shannon's little 'Oops.' But she disappeared two squadrons of ships with some errant computer code. She never even got a reprimand for that did she? Do you think they've at least plugged that particular hole? When she starts seeing dirty politics in a tactical fashion, things go kablooey!

Pritchart may run the planet. But I think Shannon wears the pants in the Navy. At least I wouldn't dare question her while I'm on a ship.

Anybody got the guts to ask Shannon if she were on her cycle?

pokermind wrote:Then there was Abraham Lincoln who got rid of general McClellan when asked about it Abe told this joke, "There was a man who had his horse put a foot in the stirrup the man said. 'If you are going to get own, I'm going to get off.'," then Abe said he was not getting off.

Poker.

Yep, although that was mostly for military reasons. If anything the domestic politics were pushing to keep McClellan in command, not bench him; which I believe was part of the reason Lincoln reinstated McClellan the first time (after Pope lost 2nd Bull Run)


It's a shame McClellan's ego wouldn't let him stay behind the lines as a trainer of troops (which he was, by accounts, quite good at). Letting the trained units be handed over to a more aggressive General.

Although I guess some of his faults could have been counteractive by a really good, and persuasive, intelligence officer. Someone who could evaporate the phantom armies McClellan was usually convinced were waiting in the wings to pounce should his army advance too far.

I just have the ideas, cthia. Details like the brand are left for you to discover.

Cheers

John

cthia wrote:

John Prigent wrote:
I'm beginning to think that a wise investment for retirement savings would be shares in the company that makes roseandheather's favourite tissues. Too late for me, I'm already retired, but some of you might like to consider it .

Cheers

John

And that, cthia, is why I love her more than I love any other female character in the Honorverse (yes, even more than Estelle, albeit barely - not that Essie needs to know!!) - and why I want to wrap her up in a ginormous hug forever and make all the pain go away. (And, y'know, serve her to the end of my days. If a Grayson could work for the Republic's President while marrying a Manticoran - hi, Allen! - I'd manage it.)

(We won't talk about the fanmix I'm working on in honor of Javier and Eloise, okay? Okay.)

*reaches for next box of tissues*

Attaboy John! I've been trying to get an all-in. You coax the 'brand' out of her and I'm making a call to go all-in!!

Of course, I'm not much better.[/quote]

wiki wrote:
One of Hades' prisoners turned out to be Admiral Amos Parnell, who finally made Caslet understand that his participation in the prisoners' breakout from Tepes prevented him from ever returning to Haven without being held as a traitor, and that in any event the People's Republic did not deserve the efforts and suffering of people like him, who ultimately had the freedom of conscience and choice to decide what to do with their own lives.

Why, oh why can't Pritchart, of all people, pardon certain officers? Certainly she understand their motivations—she had the same.

If she doesn't pardon them, then Haven, inevitably, are going to be forced to trust and work closely with traitors within the GA! How does that make sense? I'm sorry, but this dog just can't let that particular bone go.

cthia wrote:

Michael Everett wrote:
Cthia,

Diplomacy.

Be warned, this game can lead to multi-generational feuds...

Oh my! I emailed this post to my niece and she was on my mobile within minutes. We are both like

You have no idea what you have just done Michael. What to get the woman who has everything, she has a birthday coming up. Thank you Thank you Thank you. My niece says that we should process your footnote as a warning to remove all of the weapons from the house before she and her friends play it. That's how passionate some of their discussions get. Michael, Thank You. Again!

Incredible!

First, fantasic game. Love it.
Second, Diplomacy is one of the great things ever. Babylon 5 was so great at showing it. Trying to get the Leauge of non-aligned worlds to commit. The feints and parrys. Love the stuff myself.

Dieu_Le_Fera wrote:

Don't know about our Navy, but General MacArthur was rather famously fired by President Truman during the Korean War.

"Alright I will say it, because Truman was too much of a pussy wimp to let McArthur go in there and blow out those Commie bastards!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfi4s8cjLFI&hd=1

Someone pointed out that he was crazy. He wasn't crazy, he just had no grasp of the political areaa, in my opinion. Was was a good military commander, but I don't think he was Genius.

A close analog would be Patton, after WWII. Of course his remarks regardling Russia after the war really were inflamatory, so, for the sake of peace, he was relieved...
Doesn't mean his statements were wrong though...

roseandheather wrote:

cthia wrote:I always understood why she did it. Just amazed me that she could do it. Her stomach? Her entire soul must have curdled...her soul must have been like buttermilk. My niece always said that she gave a new meaning to 'take one for the team.' I always got the impression that at the end of the day, only her relationship with Giscard kept her sane. Oh to what heights she could have soared had he not died. I simply cannot wait to see her portrayed onscreen. Look and all! He died with Eloi— on his lips. What the quintessential love story.

And that, cthia, is why I love her more than I love any other female character in the Honorverse (yes, even more than Estelle, albeit barely - not that Essie needs to know!!) - and why I want to wrap her up in a ginormous hug forever and make all the pain go away. (And, y'know, serve her to the end of my days. If a Grayson could work for the Republic's President while marrying a Manticoran - hi, Allen! - I'd manage it.)

(We won't talk about the fanmix I'm working on in honor of Javier and Eloise, okay? Okay.)

*reaches for next box of tissues*

So much slack being caught for the tissues. lol
She just gets into her reading... more than most... alot more then most...

cthia wrote:

wiki wrote:
One of Hades' prisoners turned out to be Admiral Amos Parnell, who finally made Caslet understand that his participation in the prisoners' breakout from Tepes prevented him from ever returning to Haven without being held as a traitor, and that in any event the People's Republic did not deserve the efforts and suffering of people like him, who ultimately had the freedom of conscience and choice to decide what to do with their own lives.

Why, oh why can't Pritchart, of all people, pardon certain officers? Certainly she understand their motivations—she had the same.

If she doesn't pardon them, then Haven, inevitably, are going to be forced to trust and work closely with traitors within the GA! How does that make sense? I'm sorry, but this dog just can't let that particular bone go.

Yes, she could but consider the ramifcations if she did. The precedent that would be set. Its too dangerous to give a full pardon.
i agree that she could allow them to visit but...